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Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#91

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There are non-radar towers that don't have scopes. They may have a traffic display, or maybe not. They might choose to use a public ADS-B aggregator site because it gives them situational awareness, but they don't use it to provide radar services to aircraft. That's my understanding from listening to a lot podcast episodes with air traffic controllers, anyway. I think it's an unofficial, non-FAA approved kind of thin…

> They might choose to use a public ADS-B aggregator site because it gives them situational awareness I do not understand what the upside is, aside from saving a tiny amount of effort and cost -- they could get the same data with more reliability by just running their own ADS-B receiver, without having a dependency on a third-party.

I'd assume it's more to see "whats the latest ETA for this aircraft that's scheduled for 1 hour?". Their own ADS-B receiver is unlikely to pick it up.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#92

This has gotta be some sort of federal crime

An interesting question. Assuming the FAA has the authority to enforce ADSB requirements (an open question post-Chevron), I can’t find any regulation saying non-aircrafts cannot transmit ADSB. Only ones saying aircrafts in certain categories must. There’s probably some non-interference requirement somewhere (FCC spectrum licensing perhaps), but I’m not seeing it immediately. All this is in the hypothetical that RF wa…

It would be under the FCC regs, not the FAA regs.

Whatever transmitter you're using would not be type-accepted for operation on the 1080 MHz or 978 MHz band. (47 USC § 301)

Additionally, RF operation with the intent of willful interference is inherently illegal. (47 USC § 333)

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are non-radar towers that don't have scopes. They may have a traffic display, or maybe not. They might choose to use a public ADS-B aggregator site because it gives them situational awareness, but they don't use it to provide radar services to aircraft. That's my understanding from listening to a lot podcast episodes with air traffic controllers, anyway. I think it's an unofficial, non-FAA approved kind of thin…

> They might choose to use a public ADS-B aggregator site because it gives them situational awareness I do not understand what the upside is, aside from saving a tiny amount of effort and cost -- they could get the same data with more reliability by just running their own ADS-B receiver, without having a dependency on a third-party.

Imagine your boss doesn’t like you looking at ADS-B sites because it’s not data from an FAA approved system but as long as you’re discreet and not actually breaking a reg they don’t yell at you. Then they come in and see that you installed an antenna, RTL-SDR, and raspberry pi in the tower.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#94

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No way... wtf?

This is not even a surprise. Trump has been a fan of Putin for years.

The photo was praised by Kirill Dmitriev, one of Russia’s key negotiators

I think it's part of his strategy of getting on Putin's good side.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#95

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This is not even a surprise. Trump has been a fan of Putin for years.

It may not be a surprise to you but it is a surprise to me because there are many other characters that he could be a fan of , he's literally giving Putin top billing here, right next to a picture of what seems to be him and his granddaughter. What's next? Pol Pot? Stalin? Kim?

He only likes right wing dictators. Even if the left wing dictators behave exactly like right wing dictators.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An interesting question. Assuming the FAA has the authority to enforce ADSB requirements (an open question post-Chevron), I can’t find any regulation saying non-aircrafts cannot transmit ADSB. Only ones saying aircrafts in certain categories must. There’s probably some non-interference requirement somewhere (FCC spectrum licensing perhaps), but I’m not seeing it immediately. All this is in the hypothetical that RF wa…

It would be under the FCC regs, not the FAA regs. Whatever transmitter you're using would not be type-accepted for operation on the 1080 MHz or 978 MHz band. (47 USC § 301) Additionally, RF operation with the intent of willful interference is inherently illegal. (47 USC § 333)

Excellent, thanks.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#98

Unless I'm much mistaken, Vance's face is centered over Mar-a-Lago! https://maps.app.goo.gl/fjqtAa2qgcWsJvFfA https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.680&lon=-...

If you get the DF17 frames and extract the airborne position messages Type Codes 9–18.

Then CPR decode them into latitude/longitude....plus plot enough spoofed positions so the point cloud forms a QR code like raster on the map, then scan the rendered pattern...you get a URL to the unredacted Epstein files.

Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#99

Most likely they spoofed the reporting API to "FlightAware" or other ADSB crowd-data-sourced sites and didn't spoof "ADSB Signals"

Actually spoofing ADSB radio signals could very well land you in prison with a $100,000 fine. The FCC is very eager to find and fine you for these kinds of stunts. Spamming flightaware is much less severe, but still... it's not cute to mess with life-safety critical infrastructure.

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Re: Somebody used spoofed ADSB signals to raster the meme of JD Vance

#100

This was not spoofed at the ADS-B layer. It was just spoofed to adsb exchange. (While typically a feeder contributes to multiple sites, this one didn't.) eg: - https://globe.adsb.fi/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zo... - https://adsb.lol/?icao=adfdf9&lat=26.678&lon=-80.030&zoom=14... Relevant discussion on r/adsb: https://www.reddit.com/r/ADSB/comments/1qp3q9n/interesting/ where they note it's also absent on FR2…

Yea, this is more like vandalizing Wikipedia than spoofing or interfering with safety-critical systems. It's juvenile, but probably not crashing any planes. It'll get reverted, and then presumably the adsb exchange website will tighten up their security.
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