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Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

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We are getting tired of being lied to.

The person who wrote the article probably does not benefit from lying, I don't think it was the intent. It is a bad post, don't get me wrong, but maybe there is no need to insult the author just for that.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

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Um what's up with companies trying to recreate really big projects using vibe coding.

Like okay, I am an indie-dev if I create a vibe coded project, I create it for fun (I burn VC money of other people doing so tho but I would consider it actually positive)

But what's up with large companies who can actually freaking sponsor a human to do work make use of AI agents vibe code.

First it was cursor who spent almost 3-5 million$ (Just came here after watching a good yt video about it) and now Cloudflare.

Like, large corpos, if you are so much interested in burning money, atleast burn it on something new (perhaps its a good critique of the browser thing by Cursor but yeah)

I am recently in touch with a person from UK (who sadly got disabled due to an accident when he was young) guy who is a VPS provider who got really impacted by WHMCS increase in bill and He migrated to 1200 euros hostbill. Show him some HN love (https://xhosts.uk/)

I had vibe coded a golang alternative. Currently running it in background to create it better for his use cases and probably gonna open source it.

The thing with WHMCS alternatives are is that I made one using gvisor+tmate but most should/have to build on top of KVM/QEMU directly. I do feel that WHMCS is definitely one of the most rent seeking project and actually writing a golang alternative of it feels sense (atleast to me)

Can there not be an AI agent which can freaking detect what people are being charged for (unfairly) online & these large companies who want to build things can create open source alternatives of it.

I mean I am not saying that it stops being slop but it just feels a good way of making use of this tech aside from creating complete spaggeti slop nobody wants, I mean maybe it was an experiment but now it got failed (Cursor and this)

A bit ironic because I contacted the xhosts.uk provider because I wanted to create a cloudflare tunnels alternative after seeing 12% of internet casually going through cf & I saw myself being very heavily reliant on it for my projects & I wasn't really happy about my reliance on cf tunnels ig

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

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I also use this as a simple heuristic: https://github.com/nkuntz1934/matrix-workers/commits/main/ There exist only two commits. I've never seen a "real" project that looks like this.

The repository is less than one week old though; having only the initial commit wouldn't shock me right away.

That is totally fine... as long as you don't call it 'production grade'. I wouldn't call anything production grade that hasn't actually spent time (more than a week!) in actual production.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are getting tired of being lied to.

The person who wrote the article probably does not benefit from lying, I don't think it was the intent. It is a bad post, don't get me wrong, but maybe there is no need to insult the author just for that.

When called out, they deleted the TODOs. They didn't implement them, they didn't fix the security problems, they just tried to cover it up. So no, at this point the dishonesty is deliberate.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

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> Is it really worth it? Unequivocally yes. Fraud is fraud, and if your first instinct is to defend it in this manner, check yourself in the mirror.

>if your first instinct is to defend it

the reminder of "theres a human there" is not "defending" the actions. its a call back to reality, because people on the internet take little things way too fucking seriously all the time.

and yes, this is a little thing. extremely tiny. i promise you'll forget about it in a few days whenever the next thing in the outrage cycle bubbles to the top of your feed/HN

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

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Days after the fake story about Cursor building a web browser from scratch with GPT-5.2 was debunked. Disbelief should be the default reaction to stories like this.

Btw, after I wrote that initial article ("Cursor's latest "browser experiment" implied success without evidence"), I gave it my own try to write a browser from scratch with just one agent, using no 3rd party crates, only commonly available system libraries, and just made a Show HN about it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46779522 The end result: Me and one agent (codex) managed to build something more or less t…

Yes, this is what Ai assisted coding is good at.

A poc that would usually take a team of engineers weeks to make because of lack of cross disciplinary skills can now be done by one at the cost of long term tech debt because of lack of cross disciplinary knowledge.

Re: Cloudflare claimed they implemented Matrix on Cloudflare workers. They didn't

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> Is it really worth it? Unequivocally yes. Fraud is fraud, and if your first instinct is to defend it in this manner, check yourself in the mirror.

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I’m plenty calm. There’s just nothing to debate here: the blog post and repo are a conscious, deliberate, and egregious misrepresentation of fact.

I would absolutely say exactly the same things to the author’s face as I’m saying right now. I would never work for a company that condones this in a million years, as a matter of principle.

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