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Palantir has no place in UK public services

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Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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Yeah sometimes I question the time and effort I give to some comments on this forum, especially when it comes to more nuanced non-programming topics. I’ve seen what some people have to say about programming and it’s appalling… extend that to something on which they’re not even formally educated? Yeesh

lol. Losing must suck.

“Losing” tells me your brain probably isn’t even fully developed. It’s even worse…

Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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This reads like someone who replaced thinking with the word “creepy” and hit paste until it felt like an opinion. If your critique is just moral panic (and I guess merch anxiety) you’re not exposing anything … and speaking of merch, their Karp “Dominate” shirt is absolutely killer

The moral panic is justified, if you take 5 minutes to look into what they do, and who's behind it (YC's own neo-nazi billionaire, Peter Theil, of course, who is actively undermining western democracy and norms in conjunction with Trump, his hand-picked puppet JD Vance, and so on). For example, they created the facial recognition database and national surveillance system that ICE is literally currently using to hunt…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46756117

Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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I don't think the sentiment the poster you're interacting with is anything novel or surprising to find on HN. To be honest it's largely the prevailing outlook from what I understand (maybe with some more reserved language) ESPECIALLY for those not intimately connected with SV in America. I'd definitely be having these thoughts a bit more often if I was someone in another country that found out my govt is using their…

imn a software engineer/entrepreneur .. and i’m british, and that article is about UK public services ... so this isn’t distant or abstract for me .. aslo, SV isnt some monolith I’m disconnected from .. even without living there .. its companies (especially those ones that can be seen from this original poster (imbecile ?) view point as evil have materially shaped my career and opportunities in ways that wouldn’t hav…

Okay, that rationale was suitable for other eras, however in THIS MOMENT, the "us vs them" is actually an accurate description of CLASS WARFARE BEING WAGED BY THE TECHNOCRAT/PLUTOCRAT CLASS. Wake up.

Furthermore, what is NOT evil about a company who enables the mass surveillance of citizens by the government so that the government can target them for kidnapping, home invasion, and murder (no exaggeration - it's what's happening, see the front page article today about Palintir's enabling of it) as political retribution for dissenting against fascism?

It's evil. We can say it. Don't gatekeep it.

Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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Correct. Neither do Microsoft, Amazon, Google and Apple - realistically they're even more dangerous, see the ICC. Ironically the first three being the main hosts of.. you guessed it, Palantir. Picking and choosing US big tech in this context is pointless, they're all as much of a risk as each other. And don't come with "you have to start somewhere", because you do, but then the place to start is slowly step-by-step g…

Read up on Peter Thiel.

Oh, he's a scourge. But he's no different from the other big tech CEOs. Read up on Mark Zuckerberg. [0][1][2][3][4][5], not even including the infamous quote about trusting him.

Could easily make such a list about Bezos et al too.

[0] https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb... - FYI there are much better sources on this one, which put it beyond doubt that they knew they were the number one catalyst in an ethnic cleansing and gave absolutely zero shits.

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/06/meta-reportedly-projected-10...

[2] https://www.reuters.com/investigations/meta-tolerates-rampan...

[3] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/01/facebook-...

[4] https://techcrunch.com/2025/04/09/meta-whistleblower-sarah-w...

[5] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eBxTEoseZak

Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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"No way, not a cent of my nest egg funded by papa Bezos comes from AWS FedRAMP High GovCloud massive sweet enterprise contracts with the likes of Palantir to host them at scale!" The truth is there's thousands if not tens of thousands of people on here for whom it is incredibly convenient to imagine their vests were granted in a completely different universe to the likes of Palantir. Deep down they know their compani…

Correct. I expect the author of the article must also recognize that Big Tech is in the same basket and are just as complicit for the sake of consistency. The problem is, we just don't hear about it often. When I brought this up last time in [0] all I saw was constant hairsplitting, attempts to seperate Big Tech from Palantir and lots of 'whataboutism' accusations, which doesn't work because I agree. So when I saw th…

You put it perfectly, and I have the exact same experience. If the likes of AWS, Microsoft and Google weren't super eager to partner with the likes of Palantir from day one, the latter would never have gotten off of the ground.

> When I brought this up last time in [0] all I saw was constant hairsplitting, attempts to seperate Big Tech from Palantir and lots of 'whataboutism' accusations

Another one I often see is the "but Peter Thiel" (as in a reply to my initial comment, but also in the threads you're talking about), as if other big tech CEOs such as Bezos and Zuckerberg have even one extra moral fiber in their body that puts them in a notably different category.

Do you happen to have a (semi-)public presence anywhere? It's hard to find people who understand this and are honest about it, and inherently harder than simply joining one of the bigger tribes, whether it's the HN "other big tech isn't nearly as bad" one, or the shoulder-shrugging crowd.

Re: Palantir has no place in UK public services

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There's no need to even take it with a grain of salt. The factual circumstances described in the article are extremely mundane, but the article tries to paint her participation as a problem by supposing that anyone participating in a public event should only do so if they can answer for every disparate opinion of everyone else there.

Part of the hacker news guidelines is to assume that everyone read the article, so obviously you read the sentence that started with: > One can never control what others say or do at any public gathering but if actions take place that I disagree with, once this has been pointed out, it is right and important to explain one’s own position

I did. Are you trying to make a point here? If so, what is your point? I see a lot of weaseling around what you want to get across, but no actual comment on anything I wrote.
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