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Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by 999900000999 »

tokyobreakfast wrote: post #47

I read at least one thread per day criticizing Tesla self-driving (which has hundreds of highly-paid engineers working on it) as unreliable vaporware, meanwhile I'm supposed to hack my car with some code off a GitHub repo? I'll be adding this to my list of 101 creative ways to die, behind basement apartment in Venice, Italy.

My thoughts exactly.

This is a horrible idea for a bunch of reasons.

Real driver assist systems are tested for each car for millions of miles before release.

I can imagine this as a toy on a recreational vehicle like an ATV, but it's outright reckless to put this on a real car.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by gkfasdfasdf »

tokyobreakfast wrote: post #47

I read at least one thread per day criticizing Tesla self-driving (which has hundreds of highly-paid engineers working on it) as unreliable vaporware, meanwhile I'm supposed to hack my car with some code off a GitHub repo? I'll be adding this to my list of 101 creative ways to die, behind basement apartment in Venice, Italy.

Tesla FSD is awesome. I use it almost all the time now, it feels safer than me driving. It's like having a private chauffeur. My disengagements are mostly nav related.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#93

Post by itake »

zeroq wrote: post #31
testfoobar wrote: post #17

Really impressive tech. I don't understand the insurance ramifications of installing and using this system. Comma's website links to a 7 year old reddit thread: https://comma.ai/support#will-my-insurance-cover-my-car-with... As a driver, if in an accident, could someone reasonably assert that you were not paying attention?

- InsureCo, how may I help you? - Hey, I want to ask about installing a self driving module in my car... - Sure, you mean Tesla upgrade? - No, another one. - Another one? - Yeah, you remember that kid that hacked Playstation?

I think it was xbox?

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by sandworm101 »

nashashmi wrote: post #37

> Currently, openpilot performs the functions of Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) and Automated Lane Centering (ALC). openpilot can accelerate, brake automatically for other vehicles, and steer to follow the road/lane. [1] [Some of the] Cars that are currently supported already have "smart cruise" and "lane follow". Why then use a third-party self-driving system? [1] https://comma.ai/openpilot#:~:text=Currently%2C%20ope…

Lane follow? Does it have lane discovery? There was snow on my commute this morning. 4-land highway was basically follow the leader. Pick some line where you think there is the most traction and stick with it. I have yet to see footage of an autodrive system in such a situation.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by tavianator »

itake wrote: post #93
zeroq wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- InsureCo, how may I help you? - Hey, I want to ask about installing a self driving module in my car... - Sure, you mean Tesla upgrade? - No, another one. - Another one? - Yeah, you remember that kid that hacked Playstation?

I think it was xbox?

No: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Computer_Entertainment_Am...

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by neilv »

Will this be deployed mostly by those with the worst judgment?

For example, that video is implied to be of some open source self-driving project, run on an active public road, at 42mph. A lot of sensible people would say that's irresponsible or unsafe, and not do it. Move-fast-and-break-things bros and narcissists, however, wouldn't see a problem.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

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Post by fc417fc802 »

chihuahua wrote: post #63
gegtik wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I assume the same as if the car owner put a brick on the gas pedal and there was no driver when it had an accident

"Your honor, I don't know how to explain this to you any more simply. I wasn't driving, there was a brick on the gas pedal. It's not my responsibility, not my fault!"

Okay but what if I install servos and ask Claude Code to operate the vehicle for me?

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#98

Post by ripped_britches »

I'm sure the technology is great, but what would be really great for me to use theoretically use it would be for it to be if the company was liable if it caused an at-fault accident. I don't know much about the law around this, but I comfortably get in a Waymo all the time because I have some intuition about it that tells me that their lawyers are scared shitless of killing someone. It's a hard sell for me when it says "self-install at your own risk" but I appreciate the effort.

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#99

Post by Powdering7082 »

jyscao wrote: post #82
nomel wrote: post #33

There's a few Lex Fridman podcasts with George Hotz, the founder. Highly recommend them: #31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwcYp-XT7UI #132 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L3gNaAVjQ4 #387 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNrTrx42DGQ

No idea how Fridman manages to bring on the type of high profile guests that he does. Guy does not ask good questions and has the charisma of a wet rag,

Yeah I loved the guests he had, but eventually had to stop listening to him

Re: Comma openpilot – Open source driver-assistance

#100

Post by fc417fc802 »

t1234s wrote: post #69

OEMs would be smart to donate money to this

It would be smart but as I understand they are doing the opposite, taking measures to lock down the electronics in future vehicles. Many (most?) of them have already been thwarting owner access to certain diagnostics for years.

We badly need right to repair and right to tinker laws. Or better yet a "thou shall not employ DRM against the legal owner of a device" commandment.

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