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Re: TikTok is now collecting more data about its users

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Post by reactordev »

direwolf20 wrote: post #89
reactordev wrote: post #84

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I remember a time when Reddit didn’t exist. When phpBB and vBulletin were the hottest ways to build a community around a theme. I remember when they would get so large that you would need volunteers to help moderate. Now, karma and all that came from a way of making it so that the admins of this site have to do less moderation and let the best participants of this site have that power. It’s ultimate democracy.

Democracy is extremely vulnerable to manipulation, especially if you don't verify identity.

Except karma is tracked by your user…? I fail to see where you’re going with this. I’m not talking about political elections.

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Post by gman83 »

cdrnsf wrote: post #11

CBS news is effectively state media after the Ellison acquisition and Weiss hire. TikTok's US operation won't be any different and rolling HBO/Time Warner/CNN et al into this will be even worse.

Anecdotally I noticed a big uptick in pro-Trump content in Europe recently. Was flooded with anti-Jack Smith clips in the last couple of days, for example. Also seeing a lot of anti-immigration, far-right content.

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Post by pluralmonad »

direwolf20 wrote: post #86
pluralmonad wrote: post #67

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But that has nothing to do with the reality that the best response is to stop doing heroin. Someone refusing to help themselves does not change that.

Blaming a heroin addict for not quitting heroin is not constructive. It's addictive. That's how it works. It induces chemical dependency. You wouldn't blame a gunshot victim for bleeding all over the table cloth due to the laws of fluid dynamics.

Blame is not usually constructive. However, linking cause and effect can be. If a gunshot victim pointed the gun at themselves and pulled the trigger, I'm unsure how telling them they should not do that is blaming them.

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Post by cindyllm »

pluralmonad wrote: post #93
direwolf20 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blaming a heroin addict for not quitting heroin is not constructive. It's addictive. That's how it works. It induces chemical dependency. You wouldn't blame a gunshot victim for bleeding all over the table cloth due to the laws of fluid dynamics.

Blame is not usually constructive. However, linking cause and effect can be. If a gunshot victim pointed the gun at themselves and pulled the trigger, I'm unsure how telling them they should not do that is blaming them.

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Post by lostlogin »

direwolf20 wrote: post #85
lostlogin wrote: post #63

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> The impact the Chinese government can have on an individual American is minor compared to the US govt ICE are fighting hard to change this.

How so? ICE is part of the American government.

Thanks - I’ve misread the comment as stating that the Chinese government had more power over its citizens than the US had over US citizen.

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Post by 46493168 »

pluralmonad wrote: post #67
IncreasePosts wrote: post #64

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Maybe because it isn't particularly insightful or helpful. If you told a heroin addict this, would you expect them to be like "Oh MAN why didn't I think of that?"

But that has nothing to do with the reality that the best response is to stop doing heroin. Someone refusing to help themselves does not change that.

>But that has nothing to do with the reality that the best response is to stop doing heroin.

This is inaccurate. The best response is medically supervised detoxification. Stopping heroin without medical supervision can cause severe dehydration, electrolyte imbalance, cardiovascular issues and aspiration pneumonia. To say nothing of the likelihood of relapse overdose.

You should never, ever tell a person addicted to heroin to "just stop doing heroin" (or, to be more charitable to the original claim, "just" tell them to "stop doing heroin") and them continuing do heroin is not the same as "refusing to help themselves."

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Post by davkan »

GlumWoodpecker wrote: post #41
direwolf20 wrote: post #28

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Hacker News is Social Media

HN (and Reddit) are not social media, they are forums. Social media are platforms where the main purpose is to socialise. Forums are platforms where the main purpose is to discuss the topic of any given thread. Just because you can talk to someone, doesn't make it social media. I will die on this hill.

Modern reddit behaves like social media unless you limit yourself to very niche insular subreddits that do not reach r/all.

Overall the site has become social media. Any sub that reaches critical mass gets absorbed into the slop hivemind. Browsing r/all is almost indistinguishable from browsing public facebook posts nowadays. Just loads and loads of bot slop catch-all subreddits like r/interestingasfuck or r/woahthatscool and drama subreddits like r/amioverracting. My filter list is over 100 subs long at this point.

When i log on to an actual classic forum like tacomaforum.com the difference is stark.

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Post by IncreasePosts »

pluralmonad wrote: post #67
IncreasePosts wrote: post #64

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Maybe because it isn't particularly insightful or helpful. If you told a heroin addict this, would you expect them to be like "Oh MAN why didn't I think of that?"

But that has nothing to do with the reality that the best response is to stop doing heroin. Someone refusing to help themselves does not change that.

The best response is to stop doing heroin over time, but that doesn't mean the best method for them doing that is saying "heroin is bad for you".

Millions of people have been addicted to heroin and got off it. And I'm fairly sure about 0 of the people who got off it did so when one kind soul came up to them and said "you should stop doing heroin it's bad for you"

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Post by midlander »

nebula8804 wrote: post #69
nikkwong wrote: post #25

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...Highly disagree. China can (and has) manipulate the hearts and minds of the American public—skewing their biases in a way that creates internal chaos and dissent, disrupting institutional order, and sewing distrust of thy neighbor. They've been doing this for at least a decade now, and have played a silent hand in reshaping American politics. If (when) a conflict arises, trust that they will use this tool to manip…

Outside competition allows progress because we have been shown time and time again that the US will just not solve its problems without outside pressure. I'd also argue that any other country in its position would act the same. For example when the USSR was actively competing with the US, they could easily lob a major criticism of the US in capturing 'hearts and minds' of other nations: "Look at how they treat their…

US aid to Israel is about 0.05% of the federal budget, and around 3% of Israel’s state budget. That’s nowhere near enough to fund healthcare in either country.
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