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Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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Can't really fault them when this exists: https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code

What even is this repo? Its very deceptive

Issue tracker for submitting bug reports that no one ever reads or responds to.

Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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Probably because it doesn’t matter most of the time?

If the software is, say, Audacity, who's target market isn't specifically software developers, sure, but seeing as how Claude code's target market has a lot of people who can read code and write software (some of them for a living!) it becomes material. Especially when CC has numerous bugs that have gone unaddressed for months that people in their target market could fix . I mean, I have my own beliefs as to why they…

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Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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For some reason a lot of people are unaware that Claude Code is proprietary.

Yeah this has always seemed very silly. It is trivial to use claude code to reverse engineer itself.

That is against ToS and could get you banned.

Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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The best part about this blog post is that none of it is a surprise – Codex CLI is open source. It's nice to be able to go through the internals without having to reverse engineer it. Their communication is exceptional, too. Eric Traut (of Pyright fame) is all over the issues and PRs. https://github.com/openai/codex

At this point I just assume Claude Code isn't OSS out of embarrassment for how poor the code actually is. I've got a $200/mo claude subscription I'm about to cancel out of frustration with just how consistently broken, slow, and annoying to use the claude CLI is.

Interesting. Have you tested other LLMs or CLIs as a comparison? Curious which one you’re finding more reliable than Opus 4.5 through Claude Code.

Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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No, the codex harness is also optimized for the codex models. Highly recommend using first-party OpenAI harnesses for codex.

I used that too, but CC currently has features like hooks that codex team has refused to add far too many times.

FYI there are forks that add it

Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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Yeah this has always seemed very silly. It is trivial to use claude code to reverse engineer itself.

That is against ToS and could get you banned.

GenAI was built on an original sin of mass copyright infringement that Aaron Swartz could only have dreamed of. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones, and Anthropic may very well get screwed HARD in a lawsuit against them from someone they banned.

Unironically, the ToS of most of these AI companies should be, and hopefully is legally unenforceable.

Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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This is effective and it's convenient to have all that stuff co-located with the code, but I've found it causes problems in team environments or really anywhere where you want to be able to work on multiple branches concurrently. I haven't come up with a good answer yet but I think my next experiment is to offload that stuff to a daemon with external storage, and then have a CLI client that the agent (or a human) can…

git worktrees are the canonical solution

worktrees are good but they solve a different problem. Question is, if you have a lot of agent config specific to your work on a project where do you put it? I'm coming around to the idea that checked in causes enough problems it's worth the pain to put it somewhere else.

Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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At this point I just assume Claude Code isn't OSS out of embarrassment for how poor the code actually is. I've got a $200/mo claude subscription I'm about to cancel out of frustration with just how consistently broken, slow, and annoying to use the claude CLI is.

OpenCode is amazing, though.

Especially that RCE!

Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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The best part about this blog post is that none of it is a surprise – Codex CLI is open source. It's nice to be able to go through the internals without having to reverse engineer it. Their communication is exceptional, too. Eric Traut (of Pyright fame) is all over the issues and PRs. https://github.com/openai/codex

I appreciate the sentiment but I’m giving OpenAI 0 credit for anything open source, given their founding charter and how readily it was abandoned when it became clear the work could be financially exploited.

I agree that openAI should be held with a certain degree of contempt, but refusing to acknowledge anything positive they do is an interesting perspective. Why insist on a one dimensional view? It’s like a fraudster giving to charity, they can be praiseworthy in some respect while being overall contemptible, no?

Re: Unrolling the Codex agent loop

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The best part about this blog post is that none of it is a surprise – Codex CLI is open source. It's nice to be able to go through the internals without having to reverse engineer it. Their communication is exceptional, too. Eric Traut (of Pyright fame) is all over the issues and PRs. https://github.com/openai/codex

At this point I just assume Claude Code isn't OSS out of embarrassment for how poor the code actually is. I've got a $200/mo claude subscription I'm about to cancel out of frustration with just how consistently broken, slow, and annoying to use the claude CLI is.

Anthropic/Claude's entire UX is the worst among the bunch
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