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House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by s-y »

uriegas wrote: post #16
mhurron wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bicycles are also not a viable replacement for almost all the uses of a vehicle. None of this advice is useful.

Transportation influences urban development. That is why most houses have a garage. There is no such thing as private transport (streets are public). Transportation has been heavily centralized since the New Deal. The bicycle was okay for most people living in cities in the 30s, now it is not because the government has favored the car infrastructure over the last decades. I think we need to start with not letting gov…

This is true. But it does not negate the comment you are replying to. Once you introduce kids into the mix (esp infants) - this whole narrative falls apart quite quick, ditto for elders/people with disabilities. Bikes, public transport are not a substitute for the vehicle.

I do agree that the vehicle should not be the default transportation even if I do consider myself a "car guy".

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by NedF »

unstyledcontent wrote: post #3

Here in Minneapolis, there have been multiple anecdotal reports of ICE being able to remotely unlock cars, disable them, and even open windows. Whether its true, its certainly seems possible. Its made me very concerned about public safety if we allow our government to have this power. I actually believe being able to own and use a vehicle freely should be protected under the 2nd amendment. Im picturing a world where…

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Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by singleshot_ »

lp0_on_fire wrote: post #41
colechristensen wrote: post #15

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>It's been very long established that nobody has a "right" to operate a motor vehicle. It's something you are permitted to do under the terms of a license, and it's fairly regulated (though not as much as in some other countries). Sure you do, in private nobody can be prevented. You need a license and insurance to drive on public roads.

I find this a very odd and non compelling argument Just now many people have a) private land and b) private land in sufficient quantity and state that you can actually drive a car on it?

I do! I call it my “driveway.”

Related: 20 days until the Daytona 500!

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by singleshot_ »

quantumfissure wrote: post #43
SilverElfin wrote: post #25

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> Wait till you hear about a kid named Elian Gonzalez from 2000. One of the most famous examples

A brief fact check: Elián González was and is not a US citizen, nor was he the child of US citizens, nor was he arrested by ICE, nor was the raid that resulted in his capture performed without a warrant.

I might wait to hear about him until I encounter someone with more accurate information.

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by nkrisc »

lp0_on_fire wrote: post #75
iamnothere wrote: post #58

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It’s pretty common to have unlicensed off road vehicles, especially in the mountain west. Farmers and ranchers often have at least one of these. There’s plenty of recreational users as well.

Compare the numbers of farmers and ranchers to the rest of the population. How many recreational users have private land in sufficient quantities?

What’s your point? It’s true.

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

unstyledcontent wrote: post #3

Here in Minneapolis, there have been multiple anecdotal reports of ICE being able to remotely unlock cars, disable them, and even open windows. Whether its true, its certainly seems possible. Its made me very concerned about public safety if we allow our government to have this power. I actually believe being able to own and use a vehicle freely should be protected under the 2nd amendment. Im picturing a world where…

The government will soon be able to geofence areas to keep vehicles out of. Wonder if you will get a warning as you get close or if they will just cut out.

"Warning, you are approaching a closed zone. Stop your advance. Compliance is mandatory. Mobility privileges for this vehicle will be revoked"

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by exabrial »

> A Republican attempt to cut off federal funding tied to vehicle “kill switch” enforcement failed in the House this week, leaving intact a law directing the Department of Transportation to develop mandatory impaired-driving prevention systems in new vehicles.

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by _DeadFred_ »

bluGill wrote: post #42
scotty79 wrote: post #35

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Tell your history lesson to a Reaper drone. You can see how modern version of people's insurgency could look like in modern Gaza. This is exactly how would citizens vs. US play out. With Palantir painting the targets on the appropriate backs and declaring anyone in the blast radius as domestic terrorist.

What makes you think the army will go along with it? Sure some will, but expect many soldiers will rebel.

The Navy is currently blowing up random boats in the Caribbean (including double taps on survivors) because reasons.

Re: House vote keeps federal "kill switch" vehicle mandate

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Post by brewdad »

iamnothere wrote: post #18
willk wrote: post #13

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Depends on where you live. I live in the sticks. 2 hour rides to the store on a windy road isn't really viable. Moreover, time is a limited resource. Even adding 15 minutes here and there take away time I would have to spend with family, work on a project, etc.

Exactly. I love bikes and live near a grocery store, but unfortunately getting to that store (or anywhere really) requires a few minutes of travel on a dangerously busy highway. It’s not safe to bike that road regularly. I once lived somewhere that was half an hour from the store by car . Thankfully that isn’t the case anymore.

My in-laws live in a place like that. It's a gorgeous property but day to day errands are a challenge. I also fear the day one of them needs immediate medical care. The nearest urgent care is 20 minutes away and the nearest ER is at least 45 minutes away.
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