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Now I'm building LFS/BLFS again but hacked the Alpine package manager into it to actually be able to install multiple machines with this and crossed the point where I'm daily driving it on my laptop
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Yup, it's where I got a lot of my linux knowledge. I think that Gentoo or even Arch would provide pretty close to the same education level, though, with a lot less time to install.
Having installed Arch myself a couple of times, i think i would disagree. Not really much in that process that teaches you how linux actually works. It's more just about managing disk partitions and moving files around than anything else. LFS is just on a whole different level, and is on my bucket list to complete the entire process one day.
It's been years since I went through this, but whenever someone asks me what they should read to get a deeper understanding of what a Linux distribution is, I point them to this.
Yup, it's where I got a lot of my linux knowledge. I think that Gentoo or even Arch would provide pretty close to the same education level, though, with a lot less time to install.
Apprentice: Ubuntu, Fedora
Journeyman: Arch, Debian, Gentoo
Master: Linux From Scratch
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Yup, it's where I got a lot of my linux knowledge. I think that Gentoo or even Arch would provide pretty close to the same education level, though, with a lot less time to install.
> I think that Gentoo or even Arch would provide pretty close to the same education level, though, with a lot less time to install. it only takes three commands to install Gentoo cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge g…
> cfdisk /dev/hda
Kids those days. You need to _boot_ first in a system which has those utilities. Also hda is from last century but, it is good for learning why.
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Yup, it's where I got a lot of my linux knowledge. I think that Gentoo or even Arch would provide pretty close to the same education level, though, with a lot less time to install.
Let's break it down to traditional skill level terminology Apprentice: Ubuntu, Fedora Journeyman: Arch, Debian, Gentoo Master: Linux From Scratch
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Yup, it's where I got a lot of my linux knowledge. I think that Gentoo or even Arch would provide pretty close to the same education level, though, with a lot less time to install.
Other point is long time maintainability as well.. Like unistalling stuff you don't need etc. Or LFS solves it?
This will lead to a lot of learning. /s
Years ago, installing Gentoo from an early stage was also a good experiment. Nowadays they've deprecated all stages but stage3. It's still fun, but bootstrapping Gentoo from stage1 was a Linux-from-scratch-like experience (not quite, but similar).
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> Slackware unfortunately lost out to the modern world. But heroic effort by Patrick. I dunno man, a lot of people still use it! Been on it every day about 4 years now, there's a modern ARM port in development, so it might not end up going away for a long time. That Slackware is difficult to use on the level of Gentoo or LFS I think is mostly a meme and an overstatement; it's just very old-school. It has a nice insta…
The funny thing is that a lot of us older people started with Slackware back in the late 1990's, only because early Debian and Redhat builds on the Infomagic CD's were too broken to install or run reliably. Slackware 2.0 was pretty rock solid by comparison and installed out of the box on most PC hardware I could find at the time.
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> I think that Gentoo or even Arch would provide pretty close to the same education level, though, with a lot less time to install. it only takes three commands to install Gentoo cfdisk /dev/hda && mkfs.xfs /dev/hda1 && mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/gentoo/ && chroot /mnt/gentoo/ && env-update && . /etc/profile && emerge sync && cd /usr/portage && scripts/bootsrap.sh && emerge system && emerge vim && vi /etc/fstab && emerge g…
I remember playing with Gentoo back in 2004-2005, going through the installation procedure from "stage 1" all the way through to the working system [1] It looks like nowadays the handbook says just go from stage 3, which makes sense - compiling everything was kinda stupid :D [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20041013055338/http://www.gentoo...
No idea how long it would take.
One week later I finally saw my new desktop!
I learnt a hell of a lot with Gentoo - only had a dvd and the magazine it came with stepping through the stage 1 install process. No internet connection to search for answers when things went wrong. Not my current daily driver but definitely some good memories!
This and "Ray tracing in one week-end" are HN classics that I wish I had completed long ago.