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Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by hackable_sand »

dlcarrier wrote: post #48
RRWagner wrote: post #34

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Do many people think that with their single assault rifle or other weap9n, that they would successfully defend against one or more truckloads of vandals looking to steal whatever they have stored up "self-sufficiently"? History seems to indicate that in the absence of law, those with the most people inside a fortified structure and position are the most likely to survive.

People stockpiling only "weap9n"s aren't going to last near as long as people stockpiling only food. In real life melee weapons are readily available and far more overpowered that you'd think, but what matters more is that robbery is risky. Winning most of the time isn't enough; you'd need to win all of the time.

Not to mention, you need to convince multiple people to commit acts of violence. This is notoriously hard to do.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by verelo »

throw0101c wrote: post #84
verelo wrote: post #9

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LOL sorry, here's the list: Generator 5kw - you want something with a higher duty cycle than you need so it can run for extended periods Diesel storage for back of a truck - 330 Gallon (nice to have, after a week or two supply lines got fixed) Diesel - for said tank Medical supplies - IFAK kit (NAR is a good vendor). Bleeding control & dexamethasone. Solar power - 1-5kwh. We still get 10-15 hrs a day on the grid, but…

> Generator 5kw - you want something with a higher duty cycle than you need so it can run for extended periods Note that fossil fuel can age out, even with stabilizer. There are dual- and tri-fuel generators out there that can use natural/methane gas and/or propane. Consider propane as you can get pretty big bottles and it does not expire so can sit around for long periods of time.

Yeah gas / propane might make the most sense. I already have a big 3026L propane tank.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by GJim »

DetectDefect wrote: post #24
jdkee wrote: post #14

Build stable societies.

Care to name any examples?

Many individual monasteries have been cohesive, stable, wealthy and relatively secure societies for a millennia.

Any group strongly united by a common goal (in this particular case, their religious order) can do surprisingly well.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by bill_joy_fanboy »

Scrapemist wrote: post #13
cryptoegorophy wrote: post #7

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Smartest thing would've been - move out of Ukraine. Shit went sideways long before borders got closed. There were plenty of red flags.

They are proud people who want to defend their country.

In this day an age, if you are a Western man defending a Western country's leading power structure, you are a fool.

The idea of being drafted to defend my country that sells me out at every opportunity is laughable.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by romperstomper »

verelo wrote: post #9
wackget wrote: post #5

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Well, don't leave us hanging. What did they say?

LOL sorry, here's the list: Generator 5kw - you want something with a higher duty cycle than you need so it can run for extended periods Diesel storage for back of a truck - 330 Gallon (nice to have, after a week or two supply lines got fixed) Diesel - for said tank Medical supplies - IFAK kit (NAR is a good vendor). Bleeding control & dexamethasone. Solar power - 1-5kwh. We still get 10-15 hrs a day on the grid, but…

I'd add some reasonable water supplies, at least bottled, and some pills to disinfect water from rivers, springs etc could be handy as well.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by red-iron-pine »

throw0101c wrote: post #84
verelo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LOL sorry, here's the list: Generator 5kw - you want something with a higher duty cycle than you need so it can run for extended periods Diesel storage for back of a truck - 330 Gallon (nice to have, after a week or two supply lines got fixed) Diesel - for said tank Medical supplies - IFAK kit (NAR is a good vendor). Bleeding control & dexamethasone. Solar power - 1-5kwh. We still get 10-15 hrs a day on the grid, but…

> Generator 5kw - you want something with a higher duty cycle than you need so it can run for extended periods Note that fossil fuel can age out, even with stabilizer. There are dual- and tri-fuel generators out there that can use natural/methane gas and/or propane. Consider propane as you can get pretty big bottles and it does not expire so can sit around for long periods of time.

yeah used to manage data centers, diesel breaks down after a while, petrol even faster.

you can put in additives to extend the life, and specialized storage can squeak even more out, but ultimately you can't plan on it being good past 12 months, maybe as low as 5-6 if conditions aren't great.

we ran / tested the generators weekly, both just to exercise them and confirm they're good, but also just to burn off old fuel.

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by red-iron-pine »

mynameisash wrote: post #35
dlcarrier wrote: post #31

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If you have a solar panels, a battery, and generator, it would be good idea to figure out how to hook them all together. Using the generator near its full output, to charge the battery, will use far less fuel than idling it all day. Even if things are bad enough for iodine pills, they are only really needed for children. Once you hit your mid teens, your thyroid is fully developed and not pulling in enough iodine to…

I assume the iodine is about water treatment and not radiation?

presumably both

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by red-iron-pine »

abc123abc123 wrote: post #83
Scrapemist wrote: post #13

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They are proud people who want to defend their country.

Let politicians fight and die in their own wars. If russia "visited" my country, I'd follow it with a drink in my hand from the bahamas. No piece of dirt or earth is worth dying for, ever.

"I suggest bending over immediately and giving in to their demands" -- parent poster

and this isn't "just politicians", they're cleansing populations and relocating children

Re: Disaster planning for regular folks (2015)

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Post by dghlsakjg »

spaqin wrote: post #69
dghlsakjg wrote: post #53

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It depends on a number of factors about legality, but the hardware to make a drone that doesn't have software forcing it to follow the law is cheap and plentiful. Its not particularly hard to get either, even with the drone ban. For ~$200 you can build a very good FPV drone that can carry a dangerous payload and travel at highway speeds. Another ~$200 buys you the video receiver and a controller. Drone warfare is ter…

Warfare yes, but that's all warfare that's terrifying. Similarly you can make a point that for $10 you can buy a knife that can be used in all different morbid crimes. FPV drones as a fun hobby in the rest of the world has had, in the last 10 years since it became somewhat popular, a total of zero fatalities or serious injuries. Don't let the irrational fear guide you towards further unnecessary regulation that makes…

A toddler lost an eye, several hospitalizations of unrelated bystanders, multiple aircraft damaged in midair collisions, and an attempted assassination of a world leader are some of the highlights. Not exactly a squeaky clean record with no “serious injuries”, even if you ignore the intentional assassination attempt. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unmanned_aerial_vehicl...

I think FPV and drones are awesome, and have built several myself. It is pretty hard to argue that they are not also very dangerous in the wrong hands. Are there more dangerous things in the world? Sure, but that doesn’t mean people should ignore an easy attack vector. Given the temperature of things currently, I would be incredibly nervous to hear a drone at a protest or political event.

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