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Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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And the question is, What the hell is in the Epstein files that this is needed.... :-)

A snuff film where the witness implicates Trump is something we already know about.

I'm not sure I have the stomach to know how deep it really goes.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

#93

A badge of honor. Although it's good to be cautious about retaliatory measures, it is perhaps time to think about imposing a digital services tax. That being said, it's quite weird that these tariffs are imposed only on some EU countries (plus UK). How could that possibly work? EU companies can just export goods via other EU countries.

Sure if they want to chase away their tax revenue.

What tax revenue ? Aren't they all declaring their profits in Ireland (a tax haven) ?

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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> can't functionally stand alone against Russia, US pressure, and Chinese economic infiltration / industrial replacement at the same time. No country in the world can do that. That's not a consequence of 'they let their own defenses and industry rot for decades'.

The EU is 450 million people! It's the size of the entire continent of south america! It was the richest part of the world for centuries! They absolutely should be able to function as an independent block with international trade for convenience and not survival.

Great, but standing against Russia, the US and China at the same time? Come on.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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I think he knows the end* is drawing near and he hasn't got long to cement his legacy in painting more of the map in his colours. * 'end' being anything from nature's course, to losing the support of his own inner core as they jostle for succession, upcoming midterms leading to impeachment...

Every morning I wake up wondering if it's happened yet, and every morning (so far) I've been disappointed

I was glad when the Butler shooter missed. Now I’m not so sure.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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I am wondering why Trump seems so eager to turn America back into a 19th-century. Slavery next on his agenda?

Surely you're not wondering, it's universally known what motivates the man.

But that plan is so short sighted that even he might live long enough to see it fail

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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So, since there's a lot of talk like this, how are we leeches? If anything, surely it's the Americans who are leeches, what with the fact that they're living off software exports and monopolies as opposed to production of actual useful goods? Do you think we didn't invest in our defence? Here in Sweden we put in 5% of GDP until the Soviet Union dissolved. It was pro-US politicians like Carl Bildt, a man who associate…

Not to take away from the larger point, but the US remains a manufacturing juggernaut compared to anyone that isn't China. It's still the #2 manufacturing nation in the world and produces more than the EU as a whole. It's just become a small aspect of a much larger economy.

It's just a small difference, so stay on earth (17.3 % Vs 17%)

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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I wish Europe would just push back. More than what they are currently. There is so much potential there, but somehow the EU all look at the US as some form of idealogical father figure. Excuse the hyperbolic-talk.

It's like when every liberal scoffs at leftists opposing US imperialism, nothing about the power balance has changed. Europe was always a vassal of the empire. This is the liberal international order, this is what that means, not what they tell you it means, but what it actually means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_international_order

That's why they can kidnap Maduro, have the BBC censor the word "kidnapped" in their reporting on it. Have every European politician applaud it, point to Maduros case against him at the ICC and have Netanyahu fly over France. You can't do anything about Greenland, the same way you can't do anything when he comes for Norways state-owned extraction industry next. Liberals can scream hypocrisy tears all they want, this is the world they built. The empire is coming home.

Re: Eight European countries face 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

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Transforms. Look at history, they’ve always done that when convenient to them.

True. Those who think they are being unfair just now, this is actually the fairest they've been since forever. Fairest in terms of arm twisting and other tactics being applied to everyone equally instead of being selective. Previously it was on the lines of the west and the rest, but now its just America and the rest.

So edgy, much wow.

Try continuing this line of thought instead of stopping at one novel half-thought. Perhaps there is something to the western world order that's worth defending?

As an American I will argue against my government's unilateral global adventurism all day long. That certainly doesn't mean that expanding the behavior is progress.

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