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Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Re: Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Post by supriyo-biswas »

VanTheBrand wrote: post #21
jasonsb wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it is. Let's say that AI adds emojis to my code/text. Me, a millennial who hates emojis, will tell the AI to delete those emojis and never use them again in my code or my official documents. The gen Z guy who got his first job last week will love to keep them.

Most people using LLMs wouldn’t even know you could tell it not to produce emoji. You are thinking about this like a coder not like a doctor.

There’s an option in ChatGPT’s settings to lessen the use of emojis. Though most people never bother to change the default setting and I didn’t know of it myself until recently.

Re: Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Post by hackable_sand »

TwoNineFive wrote: post #87
randycupertino wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have some coworkers who use AI in place of the bullets in bulleted lists and I don't hate it. It's fun and eye-catching and brings some novelty to our scientific work. One uses science themed emojis (he's a cardiologist so lots of cardiac hearts, test tubes and DNA emojis) and another uses custom-mojis that she designed after Piet Mondrian's art. I've also seen emojis popping up in official meeting minutes which is…

This is abusive toxic positivity, no different than "it's just a joke bro."

It's not

Re: Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Post by Escapade5160 »

Almost no one knows the shortcut to open the emoji menu on their computer. AI is why there is an increase. Even if someone does know the shortcut, the menu is annoying to use and it slows down your workflow too much for most people to go through the effort.

Re: Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Post by randycupertino »

DavidPiper wrote: post #83
freehorse wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> brings some novelty to our scientific work Is this satire? I hope it is. Otherwise it seems like a sorry state that science currently is if it needs emojis to bring some novelty into it.

You're being downvoted, but I tend to agree that communication is not the part of science you want to "innovate" on. The purpose of (scientific) communication is to be understood, not to be novel. The science you're writing about is hopefully extremely novel of course. In general I've found "innovating on the wrong thing" is surprisingly common, especially from people who are bored and/or hungry for promotions, etc.

They're not putting emojis in peer review papers in Science and Nature or poster presentations at ASCO; they're putting them in emails, teams chats and meeting minutes.

Believe it or not researchers enjoy humor around sometimes. There's a global shortage of a specific DAKO antibody we need for biopsy analysis right now and on a call with 50 people one of our chief scientists deadpans, "it's because I stopped making it in my basement."

Re: Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Post by wormius »

thwarted wrote: post #88
goodmythical wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jesus, my dude, lighten up a bit. Consider this: You're a grad student who's been reading page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page of lack and white text. How is marking a particularly explosive comment with a graphic representation of an explosion any different from highlighting it? Or from Davinci's marginal scribbles? or from Feynman's wave diagrams? O…

> You're a grad student who's been reading page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page after page of lack and white text. What an interesting way to describe reading a book. It's amazing that anyone can read an entire book, composed of hundreds of pages, without getting bored of the black text.

The rise in illiteracy rates is really fucking disturbing and this attitude (the parent) is part of what's to blame.

Looking at the examples in the comment above, I really hope it's not that bad.

It's like the stupid "ROFL"/CLOWN by political fighters, and the (handclap) 500 times in a row, like. Or the ROFL by people who are trying to make their shit seem "funnier" than it every could be and only makes it more obnoxious.

There's a difference between "making a powerpoint at a conference and using emojis as bullet points" and throwing emojis every other word to be cute and getting papers published, or medical records with that.

Re: Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Post by wormius »

OK, looking at the actual link and not just bloviating my opinion this seems less offensive. These aren't Health Records in the sense of official documentation by doctors but communications with patient. I see some of it is initiated by patients, but it seems the majority is the provider using it in communication with patients/family... I can slightly understand that, but man I'd be annoyed if it was more than a smiley face once or twice. Maybe it's for patients who are children and parents can show to kids. I was thinking patients using it may be typing on a phone where this shit is much easier. But if it's from professionals, it's likely shitty AI autoresponses, i bet. IDK.

Re: Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Post by JoeBOFH »

jawns wrote: post #19

I wonder if some portion of these come from templates. Maybe there's a patient communication template that includes a telephone emoji, and it gets reused. Health care workers are in a hurry when writing notes, so I doubt they're consulting their emoji pickers just to make their notes more interesting.

Was gonna say my wife is a nurse and half the terms, checklists etc are like a few letters that auto complete to a paragraph of templates text.

Re: Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Post by DavidPiper »

randycupertino wrote: post #95
DavidPiper wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're being downvoted, but I tend to agree that communication is not the part of science you want to "innovate" on. The purpose of (scientific) communication is to be understood, not to be novel. The science you're writing about is hopefully extremely novel of course. In general I've found "innovating on the wrong thing" is surprisingly common, especially from people who are bored and/or hungry for promotions, etc.

They're not putting emojis in peer review papers in Science and Nature or poster presentations at ASCO; they're putting them in emails, teams chats and meeting minutes. Believe it or not researchers enjoy humor around sometimes. There's a global shortage of a specific DAKO antibody we need for biopsy analysis right now and on a call with 50 people one of our chief scientists deadpans, "it's because I stopped making i…

I do believe it, and am glad for it. The paper indicates clinical notes and patient communications, though, not internal messages. Which means I've been talking past you the whole time anyway, my bad.

Re: Emoji Use in the Electronic Health Record is Increasing

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Post by idiotsecant »

TwoNineFive wrote: post #87
randycupertino wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have some coworkers who use AI in place of the bullets in bulleted lists and I don't hate it. It's fun and eye-catching and brings some novelty to our scientific work. One uses science themed emojis (he's a cardiologist so lots of cardiac hearts, test tubes and DNA emojis) and another uses custom-mojis that she designed after Piet Mondrian's art. I've also seen emojis popping up in official meeting minutes which is…

This is abusive toxic positivity, no different than "it's just a joke bro."

You have a terminal case of taking yourself too seriously, I'm afraid. 0-80 years, tops.
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