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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by lukev »

nerdjon wrote: post #52

I am all for criticizing and pointing fingers at trump and this entire administration. But it does say they have been working with ICE for “years” in the article. What is not really clear to me is was the app made worse recently, was it originally commissioned under trump? Nothing about that changes that they should not be working with ICE and they deserve any pressure they get to cut ties. But there is some history…

They've definitely using tools like this for a while. It's been true under all administrations, and it's always been a problem. Privacy advocates have been alerting on this for a while.

Physically attacking citizens takes it to another level.

It's one thing for tech companies to be complicit in eroding privacy, it's quite another to be complicit in overt fascism.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by CodeMage »

fourseventy wrote: post #73
biophysboy wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Evil X thing happened; therefore, do evil Y thing - go fuck yourself.

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Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? If all ICE did was deport immigrants, following the established laws and procedures, I would agree with you. As it stands, ICE is more evil, because they are abusing power and breaking laws they are supposed to uphold. And they're able to do so because people like you enabled those who are letting ICE get away with it.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by cies »

biophysboy wrote: post #53
wutwutwat wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"humiliating" folks might not be the proportional response when innocent people are dying

How else are we supposed to deter tech people from working for Palantir? What is a good polite method?

The govt contract with them should be voided. That's the way.

But in the US no one believes they can meaningfully influence govt for real issues. And they are right.

Sure you can get them to paint a rainbow zebra crossing. /s

But not stop/prevent a (civil) war. Democracy dies and lobbyism (what we call corruption in "modern western democracies" -- because we dont do corruption, that's for poor countries!) takes over when the power is consolidated at a high enough level.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by lokar »

mosura wrote: post #57
ceejayoz wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Selectively enforcing only the laws you want to is the key enabler of corruption. Like expanding Presidential immunity specifically for a President with 34 existing felony convictions? Or the admin refusing to even investigate the agent in the Good shooting ( https://www.axios.com/2026/01/14/ice-trump-minneapolis-inves... ) while going after her widow ( https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/13/us/prosecutors-doj-resign..…

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I accept that US law, and its execution on border crossings and asylum was disastrous. Over many administrations.

That in no way justifies this move to an unaccountable paramilitary force attacking US citizens who are legally exercising their rights.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by ceejayoz »

mosura wrote: post #81
ceejayoz wrote: post #71

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> By failing to accept that you are being selective. Are you not being selective? https://hn.algolia.com/?query=mosura%20Trump&type=comment

That link makes no sense for your comment, but it was an interesting insight into your thinking.

I'll ask more directly, then, I suppose.

Do you believe Trump should be immune to those felony convictions? Are you… selective in which laws you like?

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by throwaway85825 »

stackghost wrote: post #45
oxqbldpxo wrote: post #21

And ppl were worried about China's 1984 style use of Ai, lol. In the end it was greedy software developers that enable this.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

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Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by fnimick »

LurkandComment wrote: post #76
stackghost wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

This exactly hits in on the head. You're trying create a forum absent of politics. In fact, you're just enabling one political view over another. This hides social issues and in the end comes back to undermine your pure "technical view". It's not apolitical, it's disassociation from reality.

Exactly. Declaring that there must be no discussion when confronted with situations in which one party is doing harm to others, is an implicit endorsement of the harms being perpetuated.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by hydrogen7800 »

jawilson2 wrote: post #8
unstyledcontent wrote: post #2

Make no mistake, the immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota are only a training ground for how to undermine civil rights for us all. Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations because they are "illegal" or live in a gray area of legality. But eventually these same tools will be used against us.

> Everyone is ok targeting te immigrant populations No, we're not.

I think the GP means the collective "we" is OK with it, evidenced simply by the fact that it is happening.

Re: The Palantir app helping ICE raids in Minneapolis

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Post by stackghost »

hydrogen7800 wrote: post #77
stackghost wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what happens when one allows oneself to hide in "safe spaces" (like HN) where there's a "no politics" rule enabling people to hide and avoid being confronted with the ramifications of their actions. The entire world runs on technology now. It's all inherently political.

>"no politics" No politics is a privilege that many do not have.

Exactly my point
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