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4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

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Re: 4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

#91

This is great news to me.

Some farmer probably lost a lot of money over this. Our farmers feed us, and generally have thin margins. I see headlines like this and I generally see it as reason for concern as the market not working like it should, and could be a signal of a larger problem down the road.

This is about the yield of a few hundred acres of potato. It's inconsequential in terms of the "market".

Re: 4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

#92

That could be a big potato battery bank? According to google a 200g potato give off about half a volt (0.5v) and 0.2mah 4000 tonnes = 4,000,000 kg = 4,000,000,000 g num potatoes = 4,000,000,000 / 200 = 20,000,000 potatoes volts = 20,000,000 x 0.5v = 10,000,000 volts (10megavolts) current would stay the same at 0.2mah I am not an electrical engineer, what could we do with this?

Thinking about wattage is more useful. We'd get about 2MW so you could run 20k-ish homes (1kW average across a day) for a short time until the potato energy is depleted.

You'll also need to buy the metal electrodes.

Re: 4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

#93

Berlin is a great place to observe policies with good intentions, yet negative second-order effects. Distributing free potatoes will likely cause waste somewhere else, as e.g. people will buy less potatoes in supermarkets. The waste just becomes less visible as supermarkets dispose of food every day. Another current exhibit is the prohibition of using salt for removing snow and ice from the pavements because it's "ba…

I mean it sounds sort of if you know what the second order effect of damage to plants and ground water will be if people salt their driveways? I would think you sort of need to run the test in production to see which way is more beneficial.

Re: 4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

#94

Berlin is a great place to observe policies with good intentions, yet negative second-order effects. Distributing free potatoes will likely cause waste somewhere else, as e.g. people will buy less potatoes in supermarkets. The waste just becomes less visible as supermarkets dispose of food every day. Another current exhibit is the prohibition of using salt for removing snow and ice from the pavements because it's "ba…

Surely if you can consider the second order effects of giving away these extra potatoes for free, then you can also consider the second order effects of not giving them away? And maybe even thinking more about it, consider that they may be going to different markets/people/causes?

Given this example is about 1T batches of potatoes, it could be used by a business that depends on cheap potatoes like a food kitchen, or a business that can absorb the input surge and convert it into a product that can be stored longer term like frozen foods.

Re: 4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

#95

This is great news to me.

Some farmer probably lost a lot of money over this. Our farmers feed us, and generally have thin margins. I see headlines like this and I generally see it as reason for concern as the market not working like it should, and could be a signal of a larger problem down the road.

> Some farmer probably lost a lot of money over this.

The farmer got their money (it was purchased in advance). The company purchasing it didn't pick it up tho, because demand is not there, and they'd likely lose more money on transport and distribution. Which is where the two companies doing this campaign come in - they pay for distribution costs, so the farmer doesn't throw them away.

Re: 4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

#96

Berlin is a great place to observe policies with good intentions, yet negative second-order effects. Distributing free potatoes will likely cause waste somewhere else, as e.g. people will buy less potatoes in supermarkets. The waste just becomes less visible as supermarkets dispose of food every day. Another current exhibit is the prohibition of using salt for removing snow and ice from the pavements because it's "ba…

As someone who just went outside to buy groceries in Berlin and watched them salt the road on my way to Kaufland, I am confused. Is it just for sidewalks?

Re: 4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

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Berlin is a great place to observe policies with good intentions, yet negative second-order effects. Distributing free potatoes will likely cause waste somewhere else, as e.g. people will buy less potatoes in supermarkets. The waste just becomes less visible as supermarkets dispose of food every day. Another current exhibit is the prohibition of using salt for removing snow and ice from the pavements because it's "ba…

As someone who just went outside to buy groceries in Berlin and watched them salt the road on my way to Kaufland, I am confused. Is it just for sidewalks?

Are you sure they weren't using sand or gravel instead?

Re: 4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

#98
post #69

These particular potatoes won't be wasted. But other potatoes likely will be. It's not like people are suddenly going to want more potatoes.

Joke’s on you, got an air fryer for Christmas and I’m roasting potatoes every day, never bought so many potatoes in my life. They’re absolutely delicious.

If only they were genetically modified to contain more protein

Re: 4k tons of potatoes to be given away for free in Berlin

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post #97
post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As someone who just went outside to buy groceries in Berlin and watched them salt the road on my way to Kaufland, I am confused. Is it just for sidewalks?

Are you sure they weren't using sand or gravel instead?

Hmm, I mean it was a lot of white stuff coming out. Again, on the street, so maybe it's different rules compared to sidewalks. Possibly sand, but I'm pretty sure it's salt.

EDIT: Seems that some roads are allowed to be salted! It's a pretty main thoroughfare, so likely the case. https://www.bsr.de/bsr-winterdienst-gut-geruestet-fuer-die-k...

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