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The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by the_af »

hinkley wrote: post #18
throwaway6977 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chess on M series Macs has the same issue. Even level 1 is easily 2000+ Elo because of the same thing.

I found a used copy of Warcraft 3 at the store about ten years after it came out, proudly brought it home, fired it up and didn’t recall the graphics being quite that awful, but the first time I tried to scroll the map sideways it shot to the far end because they didn’t build a timing loop onto the animation and I shut it down, disappointed. Unfortunately they never released a remastered version of it. They seem to h…

> they didn’t build a timing loop onto the animation

Wow.

1984 (!!!) IBM PC (DOS) port of the game Alley Cat had timings built it. They actually used the system clock if I remember correctly, so it would always run at the correct pace no matter how fast the computer. Last I checked it, decades later, it still ran at the correct speed!

I guess some lessons don't get passed on?

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by the_af »

bombcar wrote: post #26
hinkley wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found a used copy of Warcraft 3 at the store about ten years after it came out, proudly brought it home, fired it up and didn’t recall the graphics being quite that awful, but the first time I tried to scroll the map sideways it shot to the far end because they didn’t build a timing loop onto the animation and I shut it down, disappointed. Unfortunately they never released a remastered version of it. They seem to h…

There are various hacks and tools for games (especially DOS games, but for W3 there may exist the same) which delayloop various calls to slow things down enough "to work". The Dolphin emulator has run into similar things; usually doing things "too fast" just gets you more FPS but sometimes it causes the game to go insane.

Also, some DOS games were coded so that they ran correctly no matter the speed of the hardware, like Alley Cat :)

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by the_af »

psunavy03 wrote: post #43
hinkley wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found a used copy of Warcraft 3 at the store about ten years after it came out, proudly brought it home, fired it up and didn’t recall the graphics being quite that awful, but the first time I tried to scroll the map sideways it shot to the far end because they didn’t build a timing loop onto the animation and I shut it down, disappointed. Unfortunately they never released a remastered version of it. They seem to h…

The original Wing Commander was like that. Playable on 286s/386s, then Pentiums and beyond showed up and it was unplayable. The game started in the "simulator" to show you the controls, and you'd get blown out of space in about 0.5 seconds.

The original Wing Commander brings back memories! I remember being amazed by the graphics and the story.

These days I cannot stand games with cliched storyline and tend to skip the cutscenes, but back then it all seemed so amazing... like a cross between a movie and a game.

I remember playing it later and running into speed issues too, but usually there was a way to tweak the emulator in order to fix this.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by runarberg »

Icelandair’s chess engine was equally brutal (well maybe only slightly less brutal). I played a couple of rounds on medium difficulty only to realize I didn’t stand a chance. I played a few more on beginner, and still lost all my game by blundering some tactics to the engine. Just before landing in Iceland I manage to get one game to the endgame, where the bot finally starts feeling like a beginner (well an advanced beginner) and I got one victory in.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by runarberg »

shermantanktop wrote: post #27
lapetitejort wrote: post #25

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How about a nice trip on a train?

Depends. How’s the Amtrak chess bot?

I think the Amtrak way is to bring a physical chess board and challenge human strangers over a nice cup of coffee in the observation car.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by jfaat »

I see some chess players so I want to plug the chess coaching app [0] I'm building. I don't know many chess players and could use feedback, but I had been paying for chess.com premium and tried some others and it's always game-level feedback which is insane to me because it's really not that helpful (as evidenced by my abysmal rating.)

I'm running games through stockfish/lc0/Maia and doing some analysis of patterns across multiple games, then feeding that to an agent who can replay through positions and some other fun stuff. Really keen to find out if it's helpful for anyone else!

[0]https://chessfiend.com

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by dheera »

nightpool wrote: post #36
tromp wrote: post #33

Sometimes the airlines chess app gives you the option to play another passenger, but even after waiting for half an hour I've never been hooked up with another player. Has anyone else been able to?

It only works with passengers on your same flight. In practice, it's good for kids in the same family or school group who are sitting across the aisle from each other. I've used it for some of their other games

Aren't they all hooked up to Wi-Fi now? Why the restriction on same flight?

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by tdeck »

farialima wrote: post #41
dyauspitr wrote: post #31

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I don’t have 5 days to travel across the country.

- it’s 3 days not 5 (e.g leaving NYC Wednesday morning arriving SF Saturday evening) - the internet connection is excellent (even in most tunnels) so you can work, have video meetings, etc, not to mention play chess online

I did this once from Seattle. It was a good experience, but the internet connection was nonexistent along large parts of the route.

Also one way cost like $1,200.

Re: The chess bot on Delta Air Lines will destroy you (2024) [video]

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Post by muyuu »

I don't think I've played this bot. I guess the few times I flew in America wasn't with Delta as I would definitely try chess if available.

From what I've seen in the video I'd give the bot around 2100 FIDE equivalent. Granted you don't play bots like you play people. This bot essentially plays top engine moves and every now and then it introduces suboptimal moves. This technique can be played against choosing appropriate openings and being patient with calculation.

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