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Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by blep-arsh »

aappleby wrote: post #18

This guy is complaining about fringing...on 9- and 10-pixel high fonts. That works out to 1.6mm or 1.8mm high characters on a 140 dpi screen, or about 1/16 of an inch. He's also got Cleartype on and set to RGB stripe even though the OLED is not RGB stripe (though to be fair, Windows doesn't really make it clear what each page of the ClearType tuner does). But yeah, if you use a _tiny_ font and sit _really_ close to t…

I don't generally use tiny fonts and I hopefully don't sit unreasonably close to the screen yet fringing is very apparent to me (even on window borders, i.e. it's not a font rendering quirk in my case). Just another anecdotal data point.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by magicalhippo »

sirfz wrote: post #76
magicalhippo wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I upgraded my 27" 1440p LCD to a 27" 4k OLED (PG27UCDM) and for me text rendering was a big upgrade. Yes there is color fringing if I take a zoomed in picture with my camera, but nothing I notice in day to day use. And I've been highly annoyed by missing or bad ClearType rendering. I specifically went for the 27" to get the extra pixel density though. I might not have been happy with the 32" variant. That said, the t…

I just ordered this monitor earlier this week (still waiting for it to be delivered), did you need to tweak it or use some thing like MacType like others are suggesting in this thread?

I'm on Windows. Didn't tweak it much, I changed the color settings slightly according to this video[1].

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CzgGB0kFJk

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by altairprime »

ksec wrote: post #46
aappleby wrote: post #18

This guy is complaining about fringing...on 9- and 10-pixel high fonts. That works out to 1.6mm or 1.8mm high characters on a 140 dpi screen, or about 1/16 of an inch. He's also got Cleartype on and set to RGB stripe even though the OLED is not RGB stripe (though to be fair, Windows doesn't really make it clear what each page of the ClearType tuner does). But yeah, if you use a _tiny_ font and sit _really_ close to t…

My Friend on a 30Hz Phone Screen because of battery saving mode said the difference between 30Hz and 60Hz is so minor, that in "In practice, it's been unnoticeable." At one point in time 95%+ of HN comments were cheering on about Atom the text editor and later VSCode as being fast enough or unnoticeable. When Sublime user are baffled as to why. And Sublime isn't the fastest text editor either before Zed came out. Yes…

> 10 times out of 10 I could tell an OLED font rendering to LCD. I wish I couldn't.

I second this. I can tell, and I would never wish that ability on my worst enemy. Very glad there's a (slim, but exists) market catering to that — and that I no longer have to buy a monitor that costs as much as a small motorcycle to not be constantly infuriated at everything in my field of vision when working.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by zokier »

jedbrooke wrote: post #14
girvo wrote: post #11

As the article states, this is why RGB Stripe layouts are the next big things in OLED. Quite exciting, and sub pixel layouts that aren't good for text are exactly why I have an XG27AQMR in front of me for work/gaming instead of an OLED (27" IPS LCD, 1440p, 300hz)

I wonder if the RGB strip layout has some downsides, and why such a no brainer idea hasn’t been tried before. If I had to guess it could be something in the manufacturing process is more difficult.

Peak brightness is most likely to suffer.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by whatevaa »

aappleby wrote: post #18

This guy is complaining about fringing...on 9- and 10-pixel high fonts. That works out to 1.6mm or 1.8mm high characters on a 140 dpi screen, or about 1/16 of an inch. He's also got Cleartype on and set to RGB stripe even though the OLED is not RGB stripe (though to be fair, Windows doesn't really make it clear what each page of the ClearType tuner does). But yeah, if you use a _tiny_ font and sit _really_ close to t…

The issue with his monitor is that regular subpixel hinting of cleartype doesn't work because of different subpixel layout, and DPI is not high enough to not need it. It is a real problem.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by jwrallie »

modeless wrote: post #21

I can't bring myself to get an OLED when I know it will get the taskbar and window decorations burned into it after a few years. One day if they invent one with truly zero burn-in I'll consider it.

I like to use monitors for a very long time, knowing it will have burn in and lower brightness over time does not sit well with me. I had a phone with the burger menu of AnkiDroid permanently burned in, I am trying to stick to IPS screens after that one.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

#98

Post by JeanMii »

ksec wrote: post #82
lostlogin wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don’t forget sound. Listening to music off a phone speaker. It’s so grating that I don’t understand why anyone would do it.

There was a point in time ( may be 15+ years ago ) I said MacBook have the best laptop speakers and that was one of the reason I brought them. They are not perfect, as any people who cares about audio will tell you but considering the size of laptop they were the best I could get and decent enough. Most of my friends, and nearly everyone on the internet was like, who buys Laptops because of speakers? They all sounded…

I've learned to come to terms with this mentality, mainly due to time constraints. Before, I would always do an insane amount of research and benchmarking to find the absolute best in its category, even for mundane things like a coffee grinder. I would aggregate thousands of reviews and turn them into sentiment analysis, cross-referencing reviews, and so on.

Now, I take a more 80/20 approach: I clearly define my needs and shut down any thoughts about features and capabilities that I don't need right now. Frankly, after years of thinking that I might use a feature later, I realise that I never do and never recover my investment in these kinds of gadgets.

Finding a trustworthy review source is key — by trustworthy, I mean mostly in line with your own standards. However, if you can try it yourself, that's always better.

For sound on small devices with clear voice and a good dynamic range, Samsung is quite good with its high-end Galaxy Tab line.

Re: OLED, Not for Me

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Post by kalleboo »

aappleby wrote: post #18

This guy is complaining about fringing...on 9- and 10-pixel high fonts. That works out to 1.6mm or 1.8mm high characters on a 140 dpi screen, or about 1/16 of an inch. He's also got Cleartype on and set to RGB stripe even though the OLED is not RGB stripe (though to be fair, Windows doesn't really make it clear what each page of the ClearType tuner does). But yeah, if you use a _tiny_ font and sit _really_ close to t…

He's using a Mac, Apple removed support for subpixel rendering many years ago, it's not ClearType, the display shows color fringing even with grayscale antialiasing, that's what he's complaining about.
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