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The U.S. Government Just Followed Through on Its Ban of DJI Drones

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Re: The U.S. Government Just Followed Through on Its Ban of DJI Drones

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Post by glitchc »

belval wrote: post #19
SkyeCA wrote: post #5

I wonder how long until Canada gets pressured into doing the same, just like we always do?

I haven't kept up to date but does the US have that much more leverage over Canada anymore? Last I checked we have tariffs on most exports, including crude, wood, steel and aluminium (probably missing a bunch). General goods are tariff'ed at 35% while China is tariff'ed at 47.5%. They could get us to ban DJI for sure but I'd assume it'd be more through carrot than stick, because at this point we've been pretty consis…

> General goods are tariff'ed at 35% while China is tariff'ed at 47.5%.

Incorrect. General tariffs are only on goods not already covered by CUSMA, which, other than the specific items already called out (aluminum, steel, etc.), is a very small set.

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Post by nozzlegear »

bbddg wrote: post #58
JohnMakin wrote: post #36

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Hint: the current democrat establishment is also authoritarian. you're so, so close to it!

We don't even have to go that far to realize how quickly the democratic establishment would roll over in the face of a civil war. I don't think Chuck Schumer is going to be leading an armed resistance movement anytime soon.

Change my mind, but everyone's assumption that the Senate Minority Leader, of all people, is the de facto head of the democrats and would "lead" the opposition in a civil war is asinine – whether it's Chuck Schumer or whoever replaces him.

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Post by gruez »

mikkupikku wrote: post #90
simianparrot wrote: post #80

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They did murder a woman, but I agree that one murder is far short of a civil war. Even understanding that a single murder can be the spark that starts a fire, I don't think we're even close to that kind of scenario (contrary to the hyperbolic rhetoric which has become normalized from both sides over the past 10ish years.)

>They did murder a woman, but I agree that one murder is far short of a civil war.

"violence" covers more than just murder, and there's plenty of ICE violence to go around.

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Post by burkaman »

simianparrot wrote: post #80
jadedanalyst wrote: post #50

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Agreed. They can’t control the narrative if journalists and activists can observe brutal state violence against citizens with their pocket drones. I picked up an older DJI model in December and am super glad I did with recent events.

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It's mostly in Minnesota at the moment, but has been present in many other states that didn't vote for President Trump. You can see it in news coverage, or if you're near Minneapolis you can go see it in person.

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Post by snakeboy »

simianparrot wrote: post #80
jadedanalyst wrote: post #50

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Agreed. They can’t control the narrative if journalists and activists can observe brutal state violence against citizens with their pocket drones. I picked up an older DJI model in December and am super glad I did with recent events.

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I feel like the normal reaction is to see it in both and maintain a distinction between these two entirely different contexts without ignoring the crimes of the lesser.

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Post by iamflimflam1 »

alex43578 wrote: post #87
simianparrot wrote: post #80

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I would encourage you to do some more research. Maybe get out of your bubble. The world might not be as black and white as you think it is.

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Post by mikkupikku »

ericmay wrote: post #22
Kapura wrote: post #2

Seeing how drone warfare has become the new hot front in 21st century conflicts like Ukraine, it's hard not to speculate on the implications of this as political unrest continues to rise in the U.S. It's no secret that the current U.S. regime views a sizeable portion of its own civilian citizens as enemy combatants. They are already shooting people in the face and not even putting up a pretense of acting shocked at t…

Maybe, or maybe it’s just good policy to not import a network of drones from an adversary to democracies across the world, which includes the EU most importantly as China helps Russia with its invasion of Ukraine and is gearing up for some activity in Taiwan. People can just record all this stuff on their iPhones that they already have. You don’t need a DJI drone to record police malfeasance. Maybe you do in China or…

I think propping up the domestic small drone industry is clearly in America's national strategic interest. Hobbyists may not like it, but their toys have become potent weapons of war, so it's important for America that we don't count on importing all of them from China.

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Post by ceejayoz »

alex43578 wrote: post #71
watwut wrote: post #51

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> as China helps Russia with its invasion of Ukraine America is helping Russia with its invasion of Ukraine.

By only giving Ukraine $175,000,000,000, instead of $500B? Or $1T and American boots on the ground? When has American done enough to fight Ukraine’s war for them?

> When has American done enough to fight Ukraine’s war for them?

I'm inclined to think Ukraine is fighting our war for us.

The 1980s Cold Warriors would've been flabbergasted at how cheap taking out the Russian military at the knees would wind up being.

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