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Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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OK, great. I like what I've heard about the Ryzen AI chips so far. But can I install Linux on this thing?

Of course you can. It's an amd64 processor with a different name and a coprocessor. Linux doesn't have any problem installing on UEFI, so unless they did something weird, it shouldn't be a problem. Apparently linux runs pretty well on the AMD AI cpus (benchmarks of lunar lake primarily vs Ryzen AI 300 in OP): https://www.phoronix.com/review/core-ultra-7-lunar-lake-linu... But concept-wise I think it's a dud. A laptop…

so unless they did something weird

That is the concern! Hopefully not, but with HP who ever really knows?

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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I want less microsoft/copilot in things, not more. I don't know who this is for.

> I don't know who this is for.

I think I could build a pretty clean and stylish looking office out of it.

No laptop banging around, no PC to hide away, etc. Could throw this on a minimalist or partially glass desk with an (unfortunate) single cable up to a monitor on an arm for video and power, use wi-fi, and essentially have a fully functional workstation for most people seemingly out of nothing. No bulky AIO, no PC strapped to the back of the monitor, etc.

So I guess that's my guess.

Though my impression from the linked page is more "HP doesn't know who this is for either". There's not much in the way of clear messaging, lifestyle photos, or anything else.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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I like that it's washable! I wish all peripherals had some thought for cleaning them.

I'm embarrassed to have people over because of my mouse and keyboard. My last mouse fell apart (coating started to peel) when I cleaned it and other parts were just unreachable.

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's... standard Windows? It's 100% the same for Apple machines, if stated in more mellifluous tones (or not stated at all, because "screw you, we're Apple"), and even more so for Chromebooks.

> It's 100% the same for Apple machines, > Requires Microsoft account to log in. Where Copilot is not available, the Copilot key will lead to the Bing search engine. An Apple account is most certainly not needed to log in. In-fact being online is not even a requirement for Apple devices. Wild idea, I know.

Windows11 making it hard to create a local account is a separate topic.

The fine print notes refer to to specific features. In this cases it's "4." for Copilot.

You don't need apple account if you are fine with not using half the features listed in the marketing page for apple hardware. If you looked at the bottom of page for any of apple computers you will see similar fine print. For example https://www.apple.com/macbook-air/ .

> 22 Requires that your iPhone and Mac are signed in with the same Apple Account using two-factor authentication, your iPhone and Mac are near each other and have Bluetooth and Wi-Fi turned on, and your Mac is not using AirPlay or Sidecar. Some iPhone features (e.g., camera and microphone) are not compatible with iPhone Mirroring.

> 23. SMS requires an iPhone or iPad with iOS 8.1 or later or iPadOS. iPhone calls require an iPhone with iOS 8 or later.

> To access and use all Apple Card features and products available only to Apple Card users, you must add Apple Card to Wallet on an iPhone or iPad that supports and has the latest version of iOS or iPadOS.

> iMovie, GarageBand, Pages, Numbers, and Keynote are available on the Mac App Store. Downloading apps requires an Apple Account and a device that is compatible with the OS version required for each app.

And seems like there are a few more things advertised as features of specific apple hardware which probably won't work without apple account but lacks fine print at the bottom for example iCloud.

Re: HP Reveals Keyboard Computer with Ryzen AI Chip

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I don't want one, but all the skepticism is weird. I can see it making sense for hot desking office workers, or other similar. When I worked from home at my last job, I kept the laptop closed and out of sight and just connected my own monitors. Most people aren't picky about keyboards, so this seems like a perfectly reasonable product for plenty of people.

It would work, but is it any better than existing options like a little computer on the desk, a computer on the back of the monitor, or an AIO PC? I dunno. I like it. I think it's neat. I won't buy one, but I look forward to the Cathode Ray Dude episode about it 25 years from now.

> It would work, but is it any better than existing options like a little computer on the desk, a computer on the back of the monitor, or an AIO PC?

I don't see how it would be better than just a mini PC. Presumably most people will be using a mouse in addition to the keyboard, so they've already got to plug in at least the mouse and the display. It seems like the added flexibility of being able to pick your own keyboard, and carry something smaller, would make a mini PC win at the cost of having one extra connector to plug in.

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