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Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by cyberpunk »

defphysics wrote: post #59

There’s a lot of negativity here. I’ll just say I’m extremely glad I had ChatGPT when I was going through some health issues last year.

Yep same, with the caveat that any actionable advice requires actual research from reliable sources afterwards (or at least making it cite sources).

i mean; i kinda get the concerns about misleading people but … are people really that dumb? okay if it’s telling you to drink more water, common sense. If you’re scrubbing up to perform an at home leg amputation because it misidentified a bruise then that’s really on you.

Re: ChatGPT Health

#92

Post by ThatMedicIsASpy »

roger_ wrote: post #33
MattDaEskimo wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, but seriously? How could you not care who has your health data? I think the more plausible comment is "I've been protected my whole life by health data privacy laws that I have no idea what the other side looks like". Quite frankly, this is even worse as it can and will override doctors orders and feed into people's delusions as an "expert".

I’d rather have all my health data be used in a way that can actually help me, even with a risk of a breach or misuse, than having it in a folder somewhere doing nothing.

It can also help you in not getting a job because your health data says you'll be sick in 6 months.

Re: ChatGPT Health

#93

Post by usmanity »

paulgrimes1 wrote: post #41

Here’s something: my chatGPT quietly assumed I had ADHD for around 9 months, up until October 2025. I don’t suffer from ADHD. I only found out through an answer that began “As you have ADHD..” I had it stop right there, and asked it to tell me exactly where it got this information; the date, the title of the chat, the exact moment it took this data on as an attribute of mine. It was unable to specify any of it, aside…

this seems to be a memory problem with ChatGPT, in your case, I bet it was changing a lot of answers due to that. For me, it really liked referring to the fact that I have an ADU in my backyard, almost pointlessly, something like "Since you walk the dogs before work, and you have a backyard ADU, you should consider these items for breakfast..."

Re: ChatGPT Health

#94

Post by jcmfernandes »

whalesalad wrote: post #77
fnoef wrote: post #65

I’m kind of torn on this. From one side, I can’t seem to trust doctors any more. I recently had a tooth removed (by the advice of two different doctors), in a claim that it will resolve my pain, which it did not, and now 3 different doctors don’t know what’s causing my pain. Most doctor advice boil down to drink some water and take a painkiller, while glancing for 15 seconds at my medical history before they dedicate…

most doctors - like most mechanics - are the worst debuggers in humankind. I once went to the UCSF er 2x in the same weekend for an issue. On day one, I was told to take some ibuprofen and drink water - nothing to worry about. I went home, knowing this was not a solution. Day two I returned to the ER because my situation had gotten 10x worse. The (new) doctor on day 2 said "we need to resolve this asap" and I was mov…

I have a very similar story. It went from ibuprofen and water to antibiotics the following day, to different antibiotics the next day, and finally to having my tonsils purged (i.e., cut open) with local anesthesia in 4 days. By this time I no longer could speak. It was the most pain I felt in my life.

I still trust doctors, but this made me much more demanding towards them.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by idiotsecant »

whalesalad wrote: post #77
fnoef wrote: post #65

I’m kind of torn on this. From one side, I can’t seem to trust doctors any more. I recently had a tooth removed (by the advice of two different doctors), in a claim that it will resolve my pain, which it did not, and now 3 different doctors don’t know what’s causing my pain. Most doctor advice boil down to drink some water and take a painkiller, while glancing for 15 seconds at my medical history before they dedicate…

most doctors - like most mechanics - are the worst debuggers in humankind. I once went to the UCSF er 2x in the same weekend for an issue. On day one, I was told to take some ibuprofen and drink water - nothing to worry about. I went home, knowing this was not a solution. Day two I returned to the ER because my situation had gotten 10x worse. The (new) doctor on day 2 said "we need to resolve this asap" and I was mov…

Ah, the rare 'HN person who knows more about everything than everyone', what a joy to see one in the wild.

If you're getting bad troubleshooting it's because you're going to places that value moving units (people) as fast as possible to pay the rent. I assure you neither most mechanics nor most doctors are 'the worst debuggers in humankind'. There are plenty of mechanics and doctors that will apply a 65% solution to you and hope that it pays off, but they're far from the majority.

Re: ChatGPT Health

#96

Post by blibble »

fnoef wrote: post #65

I’m kind of torn on this. From one side, I can’t seem to trust doctors any more. I recently had a tooth removed (by the advice of two different doctors), in a claim that it will resolve my pain, which it did not, and now 3 different doctors don’t know what’s causing my pain. Most doctor advice boil down to drink some water and take a painkiller, while glancing for 15 seconds at my medical history before they dedicate…

> I’m kind of torn on this. From one side, I can’t seem to trust doctors any more.

that's alright, if this idea takes off your insurance won't see any need to pay for you to speak to one, when they can dump you onto "AI" instead

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by emodendroket »

password54321 wrote: post #16

yikes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46524382 [Teenager died of overdose 'after ChatGPT coached him on drug-taking']

The article is paywalled but appears to concern abusing a cocktail of kratom, alochol, and xanax. I don't really think that's the same. Also, this feature isn't really about making ChatGPT start answering medical questions anyhow, since people are already doing that.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by data-ottawa »

flipbrad wrote: post #80

"we built foundational protections (...) including (...) training our models not to retain personal information from user chats" Can someone please ELI5 - why is this a training issue, rather than basic design? How does one "train" for this?

Could be telling the memory feature not to remember these specific details

Re: ChatGPT Health

#99

Post by RodgerTheGreat »

XorNot wrote: post #68

America can't afford public healthcare and now can't afford RAM so OpenAI can offer a bad version of healthcare.

To be more precise: America could easily afford healthcare, but American elites regularly accept pathetically tiny bribes to pretend that universal healthcare is impossible. They also accept pathetically tiny bribes to allow companies like OpenAI to do whatever they please without meaningful legal consequence, so OpenAI is able to keep getting away with shipping products that cannot work as advertised and will kill people.

Re: ChatGPT Health

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Post by idiotsecant »

cyberpunk wrote: post #90
midldei wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But this is a 'cart before the horse' situation. What evidence do you have that providing your health information to this company will help you or anyone (other than those with financial interest in the company)? There is a very real, near definite, chance that giving your, and others', health data to this company will hurt you and others. Will you still hold this, "I personally don’t care who has access to my health…

I’m definitely a privacy fist person, but can you explain how health data could hurt you, besides obvious things like being discriminated against for insurance if you have a drug habit or whatever. Like, i’m a fitness conscious 30 something white male, what risk is there of my appendix operation being common knowledge or that i need more iron or something?

Is your point 'I have no major health conditions, so nobody could be hurt by releasing health data'? If so, I don't think I need to point out the gap in this logic.
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