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Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by juancn »

tantalor wrote: post #45
juancn wrote: post #33

Windows is not for doing serious stuff anymore, the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC (if you turn off all the nags, it's pretty decent). I work on a Mac, I run servers on Linux, I game on Windows.

This flowchart continues to be more or less accurate: https://www.reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/mx4dni/cho... Might need a little update to bring it up to date. Disclosure: I fear technology and my daddy is not rich.

I get the joke, but I disagree. It mixed hardware with software in a weird way.

Macs are as much about the hardware than the software, and the OS is just another Unix variant. Much closer to Linux/BSD than Windows.

I like tech (no fear, I've been coding for 41 years at this point), but I don't like configuration, I'm a programmer, not IT, and also I heavily lean to getting shit done, so I prefer tools that don't get too much in my way.

I abandoned Linux on the desktop after I lost a battle with Linux audio. I can't freaking believe there's not a single thing that unifies everything, it's such a pain in the ass to setup right.

On notebooks it's a lost battle due to issues with power management that require way more fiddling that I'm willing to invest into.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by bee_rider »

ryandvm wrote: post #49

MS has been doing shit like this for decades. Every couple months I log into my dusty Windows account and lo and behold there's a bunch of weird shit like Candy Crush or Copilot or whatever that's just decided to reinstall itself for the nth time. I just noticed yesterday that Copilot or OneDrive is pressuring me to set it up and my options are: Yes, Remind me in 1 week, or Remind me in 1 month. Like, what the fuck i…

> As far as I'm concerned, I'm fine with these tech CTOs replacing their software engineering workforce with LLMs because the bar is already on the fucking floor when it comes to use experience.

The engineers can’t be completely to blame here, Microsoft is too consistently bad for that. It is a high-level strategy issue. Replace the Product Managers with LLMs maybe… a bunch of random matvecs couldn’t possibly be wrong so consistently, right?

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by moontear »

CWuestefeld wrote: post #64
snielson wrote: post #57

I love OneDrive. I don't know why everyone hates it. I save things in OneDrive, and they are backed up to the cloud and synced with the other computers I use. Some computers are shared by six family members, each with their own MS account and 1TB of storage. OneDrive makes it so the computers can have a 1TB hard drive but still give everyone ready access to their files by not storing them all on the hard drive. If I…

I agree here, but... If I don't want something synced to Onedrive then I usually save it in my downloads folder or another separate folder My complaint is that MS has intentionally made it SO DIFFICULT to do that. There's a significant amount of extra clicking and thinking necessary to go through the steps to do it.

There is? Not at all. Whatever I save from my browser (Edge/Firefox/Chromium) is automatically saved to Downloads and Downloads is not automatically synced with OneDrive Backup. Backed up is Documents, Music, Videos, Desktop etc. but Downloads not AFAIK.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by dkdcio »

tehwebguy wrote: post #34
dkdcio wrote: post #21

maybe I’m just getting old, but I’m really tired of these [super popular product tons of people use but EVERYONE hates it] posts and comments. just quickly checking the Apple App Store, the Onedrive app has 4.7 stars does everyone hate it?

Better question: who the hell is giving these apps (or really any apps) five stars? I don’t rate the apps I use unless other than to give it 1 star for doing something I hate. My banking app’s transaction search doesn’t work at all, so it gets 1 star. But 1.9M ratings resulted in a 5 star average — who are the freaks giving their banking app 5 stars and why?

looks like about 400,000 people for Onedrive rating 5 stars

looks like millions for my banking app (Chase) rating 5 stars

do you really not understand why people might do things different from you?

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by mijoharas »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #22

OneDrive is an absolute cancer. I teach Computer Science and my students are constantly accidentally checking their repos out onto onedrive which, of course, makes the performance absolutely atrocious to the point of unusability, and it often affects the weakest students who are most likely to get knocked out of CS by unrelated issues like this. The UI in Windows is intentionally designed to confuse the issue so peop…

> and you will be the best desktop/laptop OS within a few years.

Arguably it's already the best desktop/laptop OS. Hopefully within a few years it can be the most popular desktop OS.

Then again... maybe this year is the year of the linux desktop...

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by Phlebsy »

aaomidi wrote: post #40
juancn wrote: post #33

Windows is not for doing serious stuff anymore, the only remaining use case for me is a gaming PC (if you turn off all the nags, it's pretty decent). I work on a Mac, I run servers on Linux, I game on Windows.

GPU drivers are legit easier on Linux than they are on windows at this point.

I get ~weekly crashes using an Nvidia card with arch/hyprland, but honestly it's less problematic for me to deal with than windows updates. I can format and rebuild my machine from scratch in less time than windows takes to download and perform an update.

Flawless experience on non-nvidia hardware though.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by moontear »

snielson wrote: post #57

I love OneDrive. I don't know why everyone hates it. I save things in OneDrive, and they are backed up to the cloud and synced with the other computers I use. Some computers are shared by six family members, each with their own MS account and 1TB of storage. OneDrive makes it so the computers can have a 1TB hard drive but still give everyone ready access to their files by not storing them all on the hard drive. If I…

Wholeheartedly agreed. Also the OneDrive Backup feature is great - previously people had to rely on other services (Box, Dropbox) and remember to save stuff into those folders. Now your most important Documents folder is saved in the cloud. Great. Backup! I don't think that OneDrive pestering you about buying more storage after using up your free storage is a bad thing, somebody needs to pay for stuff.

I understand the point, that everything is a bit convoluted and badly explained and may even lead to bad stuff happening. When you disable OneDrive Backup (good feature) and OneDrive deleting all your files locally with a little shortcut to OneDrive in the Cloud with all your files? Yeah... that is bad practice, but an easy fix for MS. Besides that hickup I currently don't undestand what the fuss is about.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by gcr »

juancn wrote: post #65
xyproto wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many games do you use on Windows that you can not use on Linux?

It's not the "can't" necessarily, it's about friction, I could get it working on linux, but then I'd probably be just fiddling with settings way longer than I do today. Current Windows gaming experience is almost like a console, just play and forget, (if you just use your machine for that). Another potential issue is that I have games in all the major launchers (and a GamePass subscription), and the only one that wor…

I installed Bazzite just last month, it's set-and-forget. Zero hardware / driver issues, everything autoconfigured.

Didn't even need to download steam.

Absolutely shocked me how smooth the out-of-box experience was compared to even Windows 10.

To my further surprise, I found my game library's compatibility on Bazzite was stronger than Windows 10 somehow. (Some old games like Moonbase Commander don't launch on Windows 10)

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by ad »

snielson wrote: post #57

I love OneDrive. I don't know why everyone hates it. I save things in OneDrive, and they are backed up to the cloud and synced with the other computers I use. Some computers are shared by six family members, each with their own MS account and 1TB of storage. OneDrive makes it so the computers can have a 1TB hard drive but still give everyone ready access to their files by not storing them all on the hard drive. If I…

The problem isn't using OneDrive. The problem is not using it. If you try to not use it, the dark patterns the article references appear.

Re: Everyone hates OneDrive, Microsofts cloud app that steals and deletes files

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Post by CWuestefeld »

moontear wrote: post #93
CWuestefeld wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree here, but... If I don't want something synced to Onedrive then I usually save it in my downloads folder or another separate folder My complaint is that MS has intentionally made it SO DIFFICULT to do that. There's a significant amount of extra clicking and thinking necessary to go through the steps to do it.

There is? Not at all. Whatever I save from my browser (Edge/Firefox/Chromium) is automatically saved to Downloads and Downloads is not automatically synced with OneDrive Backup. Backed up is Documents, Music, Videos, Desktop etc. but Downloads not AFAIK.

That's true. I wasn't clear - I was thinking mainly of the Office products: Word, Excel, etc. They've got a whole different Save As dialog that go out of their way to funnel you into OneDrive. So it's interrupting my flow precisely in the course of things I need to use brainpower on themselves.
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