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AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by jrs235 »

mikasisiki wrote: post #27
xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

It’s possible. Either way, many people literally sleep in a monthly subscription model — rent.

That makes more sense though. Since one can't easily take a home with them (it's fixed to the ground), renting a dwelling provides flexibility and liquidity for life changing events.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by superultra »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

I think a better or at least adjacent question might be: do consumers want to pay full price for an object that isn’t subsidized by services? Do we actually want physical objects?

Even the things that aren’t technically subscription feel like they are. I have a Kenmore fridge I bought in 2020. The extended warranty just ran out and the thing died. I called a tech. $400 to replace a series of motors. I looked into doing it myself and it’s outside of my time or ability. I have a basement beer fridge that is admittedly less efficient but it’s still kicking and it’s from the mid 80s. I realized I’m effectively ON a subscription plan for a fridge. $900-$1,200 for five years.

How much is a smartphone that lasts (do they even) and is NOT subsidized by cloud services? I have a 128gb iPhone and though I barely use any apps I’m constantly maxing my space because I take a lot of photos.

I hate to sound like a graduate student writing a thesis on capitalism but like water flow, it just feels like companies will always default to maximum profits. Didn’t instant pot and tupper ware just go out of business because they made a product everyone needed but only once? There’s no long term profit growth in any model where we’re not sucking off the teet of some company.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by [deleted] »

thrance wrote: post #59
XorNot wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If capitalism prices me out of owning property, then I've not much use for it.

Billions are already "priced out" of owning property, why do you think you joining them would have any broader impact? EDIT: I don't know why I'm being downvoted. Billions of human beings have absolutely nothing to their names, and they have no power to change things. Because they own nothing. That's a basic fact of our globalized capitalist economy.

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Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by steveBK123 »

xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

Arguably a lot of non-techie personal computing has moved there.

A lot of people are phone+tablet only, no desktop or laptop. As a result they are already living in a thin-ish client with fat server for storage/app/etc from their ecosystem of choice.

Not great!

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by kakacik »

XorNot wrote: post #38
haritha-j wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a resource allocation perspective, this doesn't feel particularly undesirable, at least in terms of certain assets like vehicles. The current system of ownership is quite wasteful. I own a high end GPU that I use maybe 4 hours a week for gaming.

If capitalism prices me out of owning property, then I've not much use for it.

Trust me, losing freedom you most probably consider as basic as air we breathe since your birth will stop such petty worries.

And no system would give you property just because it would be nice, neither did communism (I know since I grew up in it and saw its destruction of everything good first hand - it had to be bought for non-trivial money with good old mortgages, and only regime-aligned people could).

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by isoprophlex »

cj wrote: post #68
xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

For Christmas I got an alarm clock that basically doesn’t function without a $50/year subscription. For an alarm clock (Hatch.co). Consumers need to get better at understanding TCO when buying things. Or maybe the government should be slapping those “annual cost” stickers like they do on washing machines to understand how much electricity they use.

A 50$/year alarm clock?!

Is it time to post the philip k dick Ubik quote again?!

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by victorbjorklund »

XorNot wrote: post #38
haritha-j wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From a resource allocation perspective, this doesn't feel particularly undesirable, at least in terms of certain assets like vehicles. The current system of ownership is quite wasteful. I own a high end GPU that I use maybe 4 hours a week for gaming.

If capitalism prices me out of owning property, then I've not much use for it.

If communism you wouldn’t own anything?

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by goodcanadian »

b40d-48b2-979e wrote: post #74
adamtulinius wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we please not kid ourselves with thoughts about how this being good from certain perspectives, when the development is _clearly_ bad for consumers?

Done charitably, I think the mainframe model of shared compute does meet most person's needs where they don't need to care about latency. It would allow us to take advantage of economies of scale. The problem, imo, is that no one has an incentive to do this as a service , so it would turn into rent-seeking.

But I do care about latency . . . and I want things to still work when the wifi is dodgy. I already find things like Office 360 deeply frustrating (only use it for work).

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by ffsm8 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #71
muvlon wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know how everyone arrives at that conclusion when the cost of the subscription services is also going up (as evidenced by the very article we're talking about). People who are renting are feeling this immediately, whereas people who bought their computers can wait the price hikes out for a couple years before they really need an upgrade.

People rent things they can’t afford to own.

That's one common reason for renting, not the only one.

I've rented trailers and various tools before too, not because I couldn't afford to buy them, but because I knew I wouldn't need them after the fact and wouldn't know what to do with them after.

Re: AWS raises GPU prices 15% on a Saturday, hopes you weren't paying attention

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Post by pjc50 »

pm90 wrote: post #51
xvxvx wrote: post #12

- GPU prices rising - RAM prices rising - hard drive prices rising Are we looking at a future where home computers are replaced by thin clients and all the power lies in subscription services? ‘You don't need storage space, use our cloud subscription’ ‘You don’t need processing power, stream your games through our subscription service.’ Game publishers have already publicly floated the idea of not selling their games…

Its a market signal; we’re going to see a massive boom in investment (mostly from China, but still) in capacity expansion. Eventually the prices will stabilize.

At this process node, China (PRC) doesn't have significant capacity, it's all in China (ROC) or as we know it: Taiwan.

China native DRAM production is similarly behind, but catching up: https://telecom.economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/devices/cx...

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