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Re: The Post-American Internet

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> that essentially leaves Europeans without smartphones ... for about 20 minutes before China steps in. Or Samsung with de Googled Android models.

Or maybe… Finland? There is linux phones already, so perhaps Apple and Google f-king off might not be a bad thing.

The new Nokias are Android with Google services afaik. It may take a bit to de google them and take out all the non open source parts out of the OS.

Re: The Post-American Internet

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I'm not sure what benefit any country outside of the USA gets for honoring trade agreements that bind them to enforce US anti-circumvention, US copyright, and US DRM. A fortune awaits any country who has the guts to say "you know what, USA, we're going to allow blatantly copying your shit--what are you going to do, tariff us? Oh, wait, you already are!"

I could be mistaken, but believe that may have been tried before...

(if Lenin had observed copyright and given imperial bondholders a haircut but still made some token payments, would he have been given a seat at the farmers' poker table?)

Re: The Post-American Internet

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its entirely needed. For those of us who live outside the US he's tearing everything down. His remarks about Greenland and curious kid gloves with Russia hint at a future without NATO. What do you expect other nations to do in response to that? We can't just outsource all our tech to the US anymore, if it isn't a reliable partner.

>curious kid gloves with Russia

Did he outsource all of the country's oil reliance to Putin's Russia? Wait, no, that was the EU.

Did he also laugh at anyone telling him not to do that since it made him rely on Putin's Russia? Wait no, that was also the EU.

Re: The Post-American Internet

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post #34

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no

Explain?

ASML is considered 'strategic' and its freedom to operate is significantly constrained by international politics, specifically US-led efforts to limit China's access to advanced semiconductor technology. The Dutch government, under pressure from the United States, has implemented and tightened export license requirements for various ASML products destined for China, including both advanced EUV and some older-generation DUV machines. These controls are tied to US export administration regulations, as some components and underlying technology in ASML machines are of US origin, giving the US jurisdiction. The company must comply with US law, which has led to actions such as rejecting job applications from nationals of sanctioned countries.

Besides this, do you really think ASML's major shareholders, Capital Research and Management Company, Blackrock, Vanguard, would support a board that would consider 'bricking' US machines?

Re: The Post-American Internet

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EU fines of up to 100s of millions of USD haven't stopped these companies from operating overseas. It is unlikely that they would exit a trillion dollar market because of some self-imposed security laws. Rather the opposite, the hardware would have to be free of whatever invasive security measure there is if EU wanted it. But they are rather xenophobic, so the incentives align.

The companies would choose to operate in the EU if they could. The US government is throwing its weight around, appeares to be preparing to illegally annex bits of non-EU land in an EU member state, to sow propaganda to fracture the EU itself, and has already sanctioned EU judges for doing their jobs when their job is against US interests. Non-zero chance they will not have any choice in this. Gut feeling says we're…

>has already sanctioned EU judges for doing their jobs when their job is against US interests.

Wow, this is scary. I assume EU would never punish US companies for doing their jobs when their job is against EU interests?

Re: The Post-American Internet

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Other than the persistent exceptions (hungary and such) those parties either didn't win or only did so very recently. They were also typically opposed to these kinds of surveillance measures being talked about(of course it's easy to argue they would turn around on this when in power) but it makes this whole argument fall kind of flat. As for the rest.... given that my country Belgium nearly balkanized in the past due…

> They were also typically opposed to these kinds of surveillance measures

The mistake one should not make is thinking that those parties have any policy for the common good. People, from journalists to the man on the street, ignore all the lies, the crazy things, the falsehoods refuted by science, the attacks on the rule of law--only to discuss their political marketing flyer like it would constitute any real policy, as if these parties leaderships are sponsored just for that. And when these populists get in power and do the complete opposite of everything they had promised, then the press will miss that, because the press is so easily distracted by the bullshitting clowns. In the mean time, fewer and fewer people believe in democracy anymore.

His whole argument is extremely solid. I am sorry.

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What I think most US people don't realise, is this would overnight start the slow but complete collapse of the US and it's economy. Europe can make alternatives to US tech, and with it's track record it will probably be more open with more legitimate options and less predatory monopolies. Once that is established with a home grown market of 450m people it will start competing with US in all the other markets. Let's n…

Technically, sure, but as long as the US dollar is the 'world reserve currency' any attempt to do so that would threaten to be a success can be easily 'bought out' by the US just by creating a few more bits on a ledger.

USD is about 2/3 of foreign exchange reserves. Which definitely is the lion's share. However, the more the US prattles about, the lower that ratio will become, the less soft power the US has.

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What I think most US people don't realise, is this would overnight start the slow but complete collapse of the US and it's economy. Europe can make alternatives to US tech, and with it's track record it will probably be more open with more legitimate options and less predatory monopolies. Once that is established with a home grown market of 450m people it will start competing with US in all the other markets. Let's n…

Technically, sure, but as long as the US dollar is the 'world reserve currency' any attempt to do so that would threaten to be a success can be easily 'bought out' by the US just by creating a few more bits on a ledger.

Except that the US Dollar is declining as a "world reserve currency" [1].

[1]: https://www.jpmorgan.com/insights/global-research/currencies...

Re: The Post-American Internet

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post #23

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If you think internet surveillance is an EU first, you will be delighted to read about PRISM

As an European it was always hard for me to understand American culture. What was fascinating for me is that they like bragging about their freedom which was weird for me, because I didn't think that I have any less freedom than them. I always thought 'What is the difference'. However after this game I finally understand it. NA is just so fucking free. [0] https://old.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/76bemv/tie.…

You took a joke about the NA LoL teams being so bad compared to the other regions that it was considered a "free win", and turned it into a critique of Europe. Good job...
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