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Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

#91

I just started watching the Cory Doctorow talk and he used the expression "the war on general purpose computing", which I liked a lot.

Cory's talk has got me excited. De-Americanisation of the internet sounds like a bright future. Europe needs to grow and break free of the chains.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

#92

I just started watching the Cory Doctorow talk and he used the expression "the war on general purpose computing", which I liked a lot.

That's actually the name of a talk he used to give. Very well done, but it didn't actually come true the way he thought it would.

The war is not over, and the side of general purpose computing is still slowly losing.

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#93

It's a strange mix of very good tech talks and left-wing extremism. I'm looking forward to watching "Who cares about the Baltic Jammer?" and "The art of text (rendering)" as examples of the former. An example of the latter is "selbstverständlich antifaschistisch!"

Only fascist have an issue with antifascists. What would be strange are hackers that are fascist. Fascism demands surrender to power and obedience, which is antithetical to the hacker sprit. Questioning systems, equalizing power imbalances is the hacker spirit.

Pay close attention to the political scene in Western countries, and you will soon figure out that only antifascists have an issue with fascists.

Antifascists have been parroting globalist Wall Street ideology for the past few decades, but this is coming to an end.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

#94
post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe present the full quote? "too many people, so many mass executions of the elderly and infirm make sense is the fundamental fact that everyone dies at some time .make it imporrisbole to ask so why not earilier. if the brain discards unused neurons, why shold socieity keep their equivalent The radical idea of treating individuals in a society as cells and the society itself as a well-organized organism is fascism,…

That's why I didn't want to quote anything because it's just deteriorating into a debate club about hypotheticals. To extend your "full" quote: "The radical idea of treating individuals in a society as cells and the society itself as a well-Organized organism is fascism, or course. Probably the most efficient and rationally stringent way of governance, if someone could pull it off in a sustainable way… I rather like…

"Let's stay away from killing people how about the misogyny?:

"You cannot learn what does not attract your attention. Women tend to find abstract systems, conflicts and mechanisms intrinsically boring.""

I am not an expert, but that is not misogyny in my book. Not sure about the part about conflicts, but in general it matches my observation as well, women tend to find abstract things boring. That does not say ALL women are like this, or ALL men like abstract things, but on average this is the trend. And when you compare the ratio of men / women who go into in the abstract scientific field, it seems backed up by real world data (also when accounting for existing sexism in the field).

In general, Joshua is indeed a weird guy, the main thing I remember from him as a guest from a alternativlos podcast is:

He always was exited for AGI to finally have someone smart enough to talk to.

Well, I don't subscribe to that, nor his openness for certain other positions, but he is definitely not a fascist. And I believe I am sort of an expert here, as I exposed and confronted quite some of those who tried to infiltrate alternative groups I am part of. (Also I live in saxony. I know cryptonazi talk.) So yes, I do see some signs that are worth debating. Giving him a chance to clarify and reconsider.

But canceling and blocking him will just push him to that side for good. And that would be a shame.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

#95
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Where were people's favourite lectures? I attended 7 talks. My favourite talk by far was hacking the GPG. Brilliant, really: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-to-sign-or-not-to-sign-practical... The "In-house electronics manufacturing from scratch" was a very inspiring talk: https://media.ccc.de/v/39c3-in-house-electronics-manufacturi... The rest were less good for me personally. Either over-dramatic and shallow (with a se…

The biggest problem with ccc is that: 0. They are releasing too few tickets. 1. They are releasing the tickets too late. 3. Still not able to pay with card? I live somewhat nearby, but can’t book or plan a visit because of this. I appreciate that they are releasing videos shortly afterwards though.

Ad too few tickets: I happen to live close by the venue (CCH in Hamburg) they fill up. And they do fill it up. That is the limiting factor.

Some person that wanted to get a ticket not getting one is bad, but what is worse is to have more visitors than you or the venue can safely handle. This and of course you still want it to work for the type of event you're doing, with multiple stages, parallel talks, ideally minimum walking distances, not a lot of extra tech to rent in terms of projection, sound etc.

To my knowledge the 3C congresses have been a story of growth and having to move to the next-bigger venue throughout the years.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

#96

It's a strange mix of very good tech talks and left-wing extremism. I'm looking forward to watching "Who cares about the Baltic Jammer?" and "The art of text (rendering)" as examples of the former. An example of the latter is "selbstverständlich antifaschistisch!"

So how is anti-fascism left-wing extremism?

Fighting fascism is required of every person who wants to keep a working democracy, regardless of your fiscal policy ideas or how egoistical you want your government to represent you.

Democracy is what allows you to remove bad leaders/parties without having to fight a bloody revolution. Fascism yearns to remove that possibility. Hence anti-fascism being needed.

That being said: Which part of the talk did you find especially extremist?

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

#98
post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assembly events like [2] are not recorded because they are largely self-organized and barely moderated (if at all).

This one was moderated, though. "The main part of the workshop consists of a moderated deliberative discussion with the audience." I think it is a bit ironic, that Joshua got canceled because of a private conversation - and the debate about it is not recorded, so .. in effect people are more free to express their opinions without getting canceled. Disapointing to me. Joshua seems to have points of views I find debata…

In my dayjob I often run the tech for events, nearly once a week. In my experience known recording/publication tend to make discussions worse and not better than closed room discussions — especially if the topic is controversial. I'd love it if that wasn't the case, but that is not what I observed.

That is because with published recordings it often becomes purely performative, where people aren't actually interested in honestly engaging with each others thoughts, but instead (ab)using the recording as a stage to make a public statement. It essentially becomes a thinly veiled PR battle with multiple actors trying to control the narrative and the ones that prepared well (so not the general audience) tend to dominate the discussion. In my experience that is the opposite of a good discourse.

In the latter case the audience is only the audience that is already present and they are part of the discussion, if everything goes well a feeling of "we need to resolve this issue" is established, with a collective feeling emerging in the room. There is no guarantee that this happens and that there is a result, but in my experience (with well over 400 events) the tendency speaks for the closed room, especially with touchy subjects.

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every of the lightning talks itself had about 20 short different topics, And as I wrote these were examples, you didn't expect someone to re-enumerate them here all to refute your statement. You can easily find them yourself. Have look at this page, where others listed their favorites, there are many more. But I don't think from your reply you didn't look at the list of sessions yourself.

As someone who has been following the congress for twenty years (and if I couldn't be there, I watched streams and recordings), I have to say once again that it used to be better. The selection of topics was broader and more interesting. About fifteen years ago, politics entered the picture, and over the years it has become more and more prevalent. Strange people began to appear, and about ten years ago, this event c…

Sorry but it doesn't look like you followed it at all. We had nearly a decade of political activism surrounding WikiLeaks 15 years ago...

Re: 39th Chaos Communication Congress Videos

#100

I just started watching the Cory Doctorow talk and he used the expression "the war on general purpose computing", which I liked a lot.

That's actually the name of a talk he used to give. Very well done, but it didn't actually come true the way he thought it would.

HN on that talk: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33854184
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