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Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by TylerE »

wavemode wrote: post #81
wilg wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the double edged sword of copyright, sometimes you want the artist to have control, sometimes you don't.

People generally always want the artist to have control. What people don't want, as in this case, is for a corporation to have control of the artist's work, and exercise that control mercilessly, thus actually reducing the reach and impact of the artist's work. (Often, unknowingly to the corporation's own detriment. Having your cars appear in a game is literally free marketing, why refuse that?)

The engineers at the car company that designed the body in the first place are also artists.

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by Uvix »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #86
Uvix wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No licensor is going to do that.

There are only 1,038 delisted games out of 100,000+ games on Steam, so there are willing licensors. Some may offer perpetual licenses, but want a royalty. It might be easier to delist a game than to manage the ongoing paperwork.

Most games don't have that sort of licensed content to start with, so comparing to the total population of games isn't meaningful.

Offering a perpetual license would limit the licensor's options (e.g. they could never offer someone else an exclusive license, nor could they adjust the rates if the brand becomes more popular, nor could they terminate if the developer/publisher becomes toxic), so I guess while it's theoretically possible I just don't see why they'd want to offer such a license.

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by neckro23 »

shantara wrote: post #72
jaapz wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At least the GTA games and metro 2033 are still available for purchase on steam, just the remastered versions. When they released those, the older versions were delisted

Rereleased GTA games have a lot of iconic music removed from their radio soundtracks due to expired licenses.

At least for the PC versions of Vice City and San Andreas, the originals are missing the music too. A bunch of licenses expired 10 years after release and the Steam releases got updated accordingly.

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by voidfunc »

HNisCIS wrote: post #88
TitaRusell wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same reason why Ace combat will never get a remake. If you use real brands in your videogame you as a developer need to know that it's on a death clock.

I despise that licensing is a thing in video games. They're an art form and you should be able to depict whatever you want. I don't care if Porsche, John Deere or Sig Sauer get their feelings hurt because someone made art.

If you call something a Porsche, John Deere, or a Sig Sauer and inaccurately represent it you're doing brand damage especially in the modern era where it could become a toxic meme on TikTok or whatever.

That's no good and should be prevented.

Developers could pony up for perpetual licenses if they cared but they don't.

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by xkcd1963 »

voidfunc wrote: post #96
HNisCIS wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I despise that licensing is a thing in video games. They're an art form and you should be able to depict whatever you want. I don't care if Porsche, John Deere or Sig Sauer get their feelings hurt because someone made art.

If you call something a Porsche, John Deere, or a Sig Sauer and inaccurately represent it you're doing brand damage especially in the modern era where it could become a toxic meme on TikTok or whatever. That's no good and should be prevented. Developers could pony up for perpetual licenses if they cared but they don't.

I'm sure perp licences are more expensive, also nobody should be forbidden from using brands for artistic purposes. If a company licences the color "red" for their branding and it henceforth requires licencing for use they can shove that idea up their rear

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by breakin2 »

Shorel wrote: post #29

Great resource. I have a fair number of them purchased. -- Back to the Future: The Game -- Blur -- Crysis -- Dark Souls -- Dirt 2 -- Dirt 3 -- Dirt Showdown -- F1 2010 - 2015 -- F1 Race Stars -- Grand Theft Auto 1, 2, 3, San Andreas, Vice City -- Grid (2019) -- Metro 2033 -- Prey (2006) -- Project CARS -- ToCA Race Driver 3 -- Transformers: War for Cybertron -- Transformers: Fall of Cybertron In most cases the games…

Do all of these still work?

Is Steam obligated to continue to support old games until they no longer exist to support them, or can they stop supporting them at any time?

Re: All Delisted Steam Games

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Post by wat10000 »

TylerE wrote: post #91
wavemode wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People generally always want the artist to have control. What people don't want, as in this case, is for a corporation to have control of the artist's work, and exercise that control mercilessly, thus actually reducing the reach and impact of the artist's work. (Often, unknowingly to the corporation's own detriment. Having your cars appear in a game is literally free marketing, why refuse that?)

The engineers at the car company that designed the body in the first place are also artists.

They have as much control over this as I do, i.e. none at all.
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