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Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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Re: Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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Not very likely https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/a/54400

I don't see how even an entire chicken is going to meaningfully respond to a wavelength of almost 50 meters. Their coop could though.

> I don't see how even an entire chicken is going to meaningfully respond to a wavelength of almost 50 meters.

Without disputing the conclusion, is the wavelength the right measurement, or should that be half the wavelength?

Re: Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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It's a reason not to use a hard drive from over 20 years ago. But if you're stuck with hardware that old, an SSD isn't an option.

IDE SSDs have been a niche but readily-available product for as long as consumer SSDs have been mainstream. CompactFlash cards ensured that the necessary controller chips were available.

Okay I guess you can use a 4GB CompactFlash card that cost a thousand dollars at the time. (While a laptop hard drive could reach 100GB.)

Re: Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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post #84

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You're not generating a 7 hz tone on any sort of conventional audio gear, and definitely not a pc speaker.

The SVS PB-17 Ultra advertises a range of 12-220Hz at -3dB. I imagine it could play a pure 7Hz tone if you turn it up. And most speakers can play infrasound for many non-sinusoidal waveforms [0]. They'll drop the fundamental and some lower-end harmonics but can still give a sense of what it sounds like [0] https://szynalski.com/tone#7,saw,v0.5

> I imagine it could play a pure 7Hz tone if you turn it up.

You're misunderstanding the numbers here. Going from 12 to 7 Hz is most of an octave, nearly doubling wavelengths.

Also SVS's numbers are gonna be the usual marketing stuff, so they're assuming a fat room gain curve, and just looking at their website they have a disclaimer on their graphs that it doesn't represent actual total output capability. Which is a way of hiding that if you actually try to drive it that hard that low with ~3kw electrical in those voice coils are going to torch.

The non lying way to prove that claim is to show large signal Kipple results including the heat soak. They ain't doin' that here.

Basically stuff going this low is really exotic and more in the realm of servos that simulate earthquakes than traditional transducers.

Tom Danley is the world expert on this sort of thing. He used to build stuff like ultrasonic levitation ovens and full scale sonic boom simulators for JPL/NASA.

In the audio world he was first famous as the tech lead behind ServoDrive. This now defunct company made special effects subwoofers using DC rotary servo motors to drive the diaphragm. They were used as special effects subs in that era by big acts like Garth Brooks. But they didn't catch on outside that niche because very little music has significant content below 40 hz as it just turns into a muddy rumble that harms sound quality as a whole. So to use these sorts of things you have to mix for it specifically. Cinema goes lower with the rumbles down to 15hz, but that's basically it.

Getting anything that's like a clean tone at 7hz is not gonna happen without a purpose built device.

FWIW Tom Danley started his own company[1] after Servo Drive failed on the business side, where he focuses on large scale horn speakers using novel topologies. They're among the best in the business at what they. Again, they don't have anything that even remotely tries to go down to 7hz.

[1]: https://www.danleysoundlabs.com/

Tom's a nice guy, I've traded emails with him a few times over the years. He used to be pretty active on the DIY speaker building mailing lists sharing his very in depth knowledge freely.

Re: Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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I don't see how even an entire chicken is going to meaningfully respond to a wavelength of almost 50 meters. Their coop could though.

> I don't see how even an entire chicken is going to meaningfully respond to a wavelength of almost 50 meters. Without disputing the conclusion, is the wavelength the right measurement, or should that be half the wavelength?

That's a more natural way to consider the resonance, certainly. What I was getting at is that if we were using a 7hz tone to explore a big room, we couldn't tell if there was a chicken in there or not. We'd have a hard time sensing an elephant. Let alone exert enough of a force to harm. Because the wave is so much larger that they barely interact.

Re: Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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Very funny, reminds me of how Jennifer Lopez created Google Image Search when she wore a very deep cut green dress in 2000. So many people searched for "Jennifer Lopez Green Dress" that the search team realized they needed to include images in the search results. https://www.project-syndicate.org/magazine/google-european-c... https://www.thecut.com/2019/09/jennifer-lopez-walks-in-versa...

If this hadn’t been published in 2015, you’d all call it AI slop: > When the German engineer Karl Benz invented the first petroleum-powered automobile, he did not just create an engine with wheels; he set in motion an industry that revolutionized the way society was structured.

Well sure, no one thinks LLMs invented bad writing, but they do copy the style.

Re: Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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post #84

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The SVS PB-17 Ultra advertises a range of 12-220Hz at -3dB. I imagine it could play a pure 7Hz tone if you turn it up. And most speakers can play infrasound for many non-sinusoidal waveforms [0]. They'll drop the fundamental and some lower-end harmonics but can still give a sense of what it sounds like [0] https://szynalski.com/tone#7,saw,v0.5

> I imagine it could play a pure 7Hz tone if you turn it up. You're misunderstanding the numbers here. Going from 12 to 7 Hz is most of an octave, nearly doubling wavelengths. Also SVS's numbers are gonna be the usual marketing stuff, so they're assuming a fat room gain curve, and just looking at their website they have a disclaimer on their graphs that it doesn't represent actual total output capability. Which is a…

For context, the lowest notes on most pipe organs are typically about 33 or 16 Hz (from a pipe that is 8', 16', or 32' long).

Re: Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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post #79

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So classic. For those weary of random links, it’s Cantrill and Gregg screaming at Thumpers and affecting IOPS. That was such a great machine. We rearchitected our systems around it.

random links to a youtu.be video? pray tell, what malware would be transmitted from youtube.com, owned by Alphabet?

Someone linked flesh simulator the other day and now my you tube is filled with some seriously weird stuff.

Re: Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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post #86

Very funny, reminds me of how Jennifer Lopez created Google Image Search when she wore a very deep cut green dress in 2000. So many people searched for "Jennifer Lopez Green Dress" that the search team realized they needed to include images in the search results. https://www.project-syndicate.org/magazine/google-european-c... https://www.thecut.com/2019/09/jennifer-lopez-walks-in-versa...

If this hadn’t been published in 2015, you’d all call it AI slop: > When the German engineer Karl Benz invented the first petroleum-powered automobile, he did not just create an engine with wheels; he set in motion an industry that revolutionized the way society was structured.

Well, that's human slop, and it's actually more insidious than AI slop. You know what's weird? We've had this for almost twenty years. This human slop in writing this is the first time ever that this painful writing has been addressed by someone else on a comment on the internet. I've raised it so many times, but it's the first time I've ever seen one other person acknowledge it. Like, how crazy is that? Is the last twenty years been a fever dream?

Re: Janet Jackson had the power to crash laptop computers (2022)

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post #36

https://everything2.com/title/7+hertz+-+the+resonant+frequen... Example (for both functions): /* Emits a 7-Hz tone for 10 seconds. True story: 7 Hz is the resonant frequency of a chicken's skull cavity. This was determined empirically in Australia, where a new factory generating 7-Hz tones was located too close to a chicken ranch: When the factory started up, all the chickens died. Your PC may not be able to emit a 7…

You're not generating a 7 hz tone on any sort of conventional audio gear, and definitely not a pc speaker.

If I feed a 7hz input to some cheap hand-made thing like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liSEwqdq7aA , will it not vibrate at 7hz and thus produce a 7hz "tone" (disregarding that humans won't perceive that as sound, at least not the fundamental)?
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