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Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by philistine »

esseph wrote: post #66
philistine wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Xbox was poised to be an earthquake to the video game industry but they squandered with the execution. Hence the layoffs to quell the market . The rest of Microsoft might go the same way. I guess now I know what it felt like looking at IBM in 1989.

This IBM? https://www.livescience.com/technology/computing/ibm-will-bu... (Check attached papers)

Absolutely this IBM. In 1989, they owned the PC market. It was theirs. Of course the cracks were deep and deepening, but IBM still could have maintained a leadership of that industry to this day. Instead, they squeezed so hard the PC market fell from their iron grip.

The fact IBM still exists and is an important company is irrelevant. They lost control of the de facto computing standard. Microsoft could lose control as well.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by thefz »

bodash wrote: post #80
monocasa wrote: post #20

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Rewriting Microsoft's 10s if not 100s of millions of lines of native code in four years doesn't sound that wild to you?

Windows’ downfall will finally give rise to the Linux desktops, already seeing trends in how popular Omarchy is and well received

Yet another distro maintained by who knows who, applying who knows which patches, that will lose support in some years? Nah.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by esseph »

philistine wrote: post #91
esseph wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This IBM? https://www.livescience.com/technology/computing/ibm-will-bu... (Check attached papers)

Absolutely this IBM. In 1989, they owned the PC market. It was theirs. Of course the cracks were deep and deepening, but IBM still could have maintained a leadership of that industry to this day. Instead, they squeezed so hard the PC market fell from their iron grip. The fact IBM still exists and is an important company is irrelevant. They lost control of the de facto computing standard. Microsoft could lose control…

Maybe, but the markets also shift. Companies evolve. Old products fade out of importance and new goods and services appear. Their company value has never been higher.

I'm not sure I would have liked a world where IBM continued to control so much - we probably would have a much smaller open ecosystem.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by koakuma-chan »

mcv wrote: post #81
koakuma-chan wrote: post #52

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Sam Altman said it's true.

The guy who can't raise a kid without AI? I wouldn't trust his opinion on things like this.

He has a point. For one, tutors are obsolete now that we have AI.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by philistine »

esseph wrote: post #93
philistine wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Absolutely this IBM. In 1989, they owned the PC market. It was theirs. Of course the cracks were deep and deepening, but IBM still could have maintained a leadership of that industry to this day. Instead, they squeezed so hard the PC market fell from their iron grip. The fact IBM still exists and is an important company is irrelevant. They lost control of the de facto computing standard. Microsoft could lose control…

Maybe, but the markets also shift. Companies evolve. Old products fade out of importance and new goods and services appear. Their company value has never been higher. I'm not sure I would have liked a world where IBM continued to control so much - we probably would have a much smaller open ecosystem.

Yes, but it's the same story with Microsoft now. If they lose control over the PC market, it can only make it better.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by esseph »

philistine wrote: post #95
esseph wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe, but the markets also shift. Companies evolve. Old products fade out of importance and new goods and services appear. Their company value has never been higher. I'm not sure I would have liked a world where IBM continued to control so much - we probably would have a much smaller open ecosystem.

Yes, but it's the same story with Microsoft now. If they lose control over the PC market, it can only make it better.

I mean, the stuff I was hearing about Microsoft over a decade ago was that they were giving up on the OS and moving everything to a cloud based SaaS model. Basically, focusing energy where the money is.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by esseph »

treadmill wrote: post #76
esseph wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This IBM? https://www.livescience.com/technology/computing/ibm-will-bu... (Check attached papers)

Talk is cheap. Remind me of this, if/when the "will build" has changed to "has built".

If you are at JPMorgan or aerospace today using quantum computing, there is a very good chance you are using an IBM Heron 156 qubit scalable computer. They have been pushing quantum computers into very large companies for quite awhile now.

Google is strictly in research mode, but doing a lot of good, hard work.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by rsynnott »

marcodiego wrote: post #3

The simple fact that they have to deny it, meaning such an absurd is widely considered plausible, is already a sign of their reputation.

I mean, there was a time when what ultimately became Windows Vista was going to have a largely .net userspace. They also had a project to produce a .net _kernel_. Microsoft doing some weird thing that obviously won’t work out isn’t _that_ hard to believe.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by luckman212 »

koakuma-chan wrote: post #94
mcv wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guy who can't raise a kid without AI? I wouldn't trust his opinion on things like this.

He has a point. For one, tutors are obsolete now that we have AI.

Not just tutors- the teachers are also obsolete. And so are the students!

AI is summarizing the lessons, writing the students' papers, then grading those papers for the teachers.

Time to shut down the entire education system.

Re: Microsoft denies rewriting Windows 11 in Rust using AI

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Post by ronsor »

luckman212 wrote: post #99
koakuma-chan wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He has a point. For one, tutors are obsolete now that we have AI.

Not just tutors- the teachers are also obsolete. And so are the students! AI is summarizing the lessons, writing the students' papers, then grading those papers for the teachers. Time to shut down the entire education system.

AI is writing the lessons too.

Like a compiler, we could optimize this by doing no work at all! Once you realize no one will look at any of the results, final or intermediate, there's nothing left to do.

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