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The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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> The e-scooters that clutter up pavements may seem like a new thing, but a hundred years ago, there were already people zooming around London on powered scooters. The problem is that we've given so much space to automobiles that there's no room for anything else (bikes, scooters, etc). Pedestrians have been given a sliver only because drivers need to walk between parking and their destination. This is true even in c…

Despite city dwellers hating on cars and wanting complete streets, cars are poised to win even bigger when self driving becomes widespread. Our roads and highways will metamorphose into logistics corridors and optimal public transit systems. Everything will be delivered same hour. The cost of this will drop and entire new business models will be built on top of the "direct to you" model. Self-driving cars will replac…

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Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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This is neat but also seems like an insane solution to the problem of “I don’t like seeing service trucks”. How many such tunnels and elevators would it take to supply the buildings in a typical city’s downtown area? And what else could we do with that investment?

they are no longer needed though with last mile delivery robots being introduced that can use the same elevator and stairs as humans

Have we already forgotten that a self-driving uber ran over a pedestrian a few years ago or that Tesla’s autopilot has caused multiple crashes?

I’m not optimistic that a bunch of robots sharing stairs with pedestrians is going to work out great.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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This is neat but also seems like an insane solution to the problem of “I don’t like seeing service trucks”. How many such tunnels and elevators would it take to supply the buildings in a typical city’s downtown area? And what else could we do with that investment?

they are no longer needed though with last mile delivery robots being introduced that can use the same elevator and stairs as humans

Which robots?

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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> The e-scooters that clutter up pavements may seem like a new thing, but a hundred years ago, there were already people zooming around London on powered scooters. The problem is that we've given so much space to automobiles that there's no room for anything else (bikes, scooters, etc). Pedestrians have been given a sliver only because drivers need to walk between parking and their destination. This is true even in c…

> This is true even in cities where the majority of people don't even drive! I dunno... in New York City there are an awful lot of bike lanes now: https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7355559,-73.9921499,13z/data... There's still room for a lot more, but plenty of space has been taken away from automobiles precisely for bikes, scooters, etc. It's trending in the right direction. Especially now that bike lanes are increasi…

The Netherlands stares uncomfortably in the background.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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Must have been two stroke, 4 stroke motors are too large and heavy for an application like that.

According to Wikipedia > The engine was an air-cooled, 4-stroke, 155 cc engine over the front wheel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoped

Guess I was wrong, that’s a shocking engineering choice, that engine looks massive and heavy. A four stroke engine is about twice the weight and size for the same power output, but much more fuel efficient.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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> The e-scooters that clutter up pavements may seem like a new thing, but a hundred years ago, there were already people zooming around London on powered scooters. The problem is that we've given so much space to automobiles that there's no room for anything else (bikes, scooters, etc). Pedestrians have been given a sliver only because drivers need to walk between parking and their destination. This is true even in c…

Problem isn't the cars. Stop buying uselessly oversized SUVs, and trucks in case of muricans. A Fiat 500/Panda is perfectly fine in cities.

Start charging taxes based on the number of square feet a car occupies and the problem will solve itself.

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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God every website is such garbage these days. 1 second timer, full page pop up. Geolocation logging to sell to advertisers... I'm just not gonna read the article. It's a shame cause it looks interesting

I googled Autoped and found this site about the topic. Much cleaner. https://horizonmicromobility.com/blogs/micromobility-blog/hi...

Thanks for this. Now I can send the pic to my local PEV group

Re: The e-scooter isn't new – London was zooming around on Autopeds a century ago

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I would argue the ammount of space in cities wasted on cars and their infrastructure is totally insane.

And again, the conversation here is about delivery trucks, not cars. Eliminating cars doesn’t eliminate the need for infrastructure for moving goods.

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