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Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by pcaharrier »

jfindper wrote: post #74
komali2 wrote: post #43

I swear I read some case a couple years back where a kid was facing serious prison time for automating requests to w publicly available government website. "Unauthorized access of a computer." I think the author may have just admitted to what the government considers a serious federal crime, as stupid as it is to consider it a crime.

The fun thing about the computer fraud and abuse act is that just about anything can be made into a federal crime with it!

Just about, indeed!

"Nonprofit hires woman, but she quits after a few days, asks for pay for that time; they refuse, and things get worse from there. But! They don’t turn off her email access to a board member’s email. She and a friend comb through the account, download internal documents, and then ask for a lot of money. Federal crime? Third Circuit: Not until they actually revoked her access."

https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/233017p.pdf

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by aacid »

htx80nerd wrote: post #23
hippich wrote: post #2

One thing that stopped me from seeking the vanity plate - I learned that at least in Texas all plates are made by minimally paid prisoners. So any desire to finance that system beyond what's absolute possible minimum (i.e. regular plates) evaporated.

they shouldnt be paid at all. they're in prison for a reason. they have a debt to society. a great many of those people didnt do 'one bad thing' then got caught. it was just the last bad thing they were caught for. any many of them did 'the bad thing', then continued doing other bad things up until the point they were put in prison.

Punishment is only one reason of inprisonment, another is correction. Majority of prisoners do not serve lifetime sentence, at some point they wikl return to society and ideally you don't want them to get right back to what they have been doing before because they have no other options or they don't know nothing better.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by reactordev »

qingcharles wrote: post #80
reactordev wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes but except as a punishment for crime whereof has been refined with further case law I believe. You can be forced to do small jobs, clean up. You can be assigned Road Crew and pickup trash. You can do small jobs that the system won't hire and pay for, they'll use you. So long as you aren't a risk of flight, to the officers, or to society if you have to interact with the public. Beats sitting in a cinderblock white…

Yes, you don't need to be convicted to be forced into labor under the 13th. Pretrial detainees can be forced to do "housekeeping chores" and not violate the constitution.

That actually is a good point, in the US justice system, you’re guilty until proven innocent (for most people).

Just the fact that you have a case has ruined lives.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by HWR_14 »

qingcharles wrote: post #78
btilly wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All true, but on the flip side they get free room and board... Joking aside, read the 13th amendment https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/ and pay close attention to the bit that reads, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted . In the United States, involuntary labor, slavery, and locking someone in a cell are all equally not allowed. And all equally al…

It's not free everywhere. Many institutions in the USA charge you for your stay. You can stay in jail for a year and have the case dismissed and still be on the hook for thousands of dollars in rent.

Where? I've never heard of that

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by ryanmcbride »

consp wrote: post #85
cyral wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Different scenario but it reminds me of when Missouri prosecuted a reporter who found that teacher's SSN numbers were exposed in the HTML of a webpage > "Parson described the journalist as a “perpetrator” who “took the records of at least three educators, decoded the HTML source code, and viewed the Social Security number of those specific educators” in an “attempt to steal personal information and harm Missourians.”…

Isn't html copyrightable and thus it is a publication? (And thus exposed by the author). Or am I in the wrong ballpark here?

It doesn't matter. The judges who pass these sentences don't know enough about the systems to understand whether or not a crime has been committed and they simply don't care.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by BurningFrog »

hippich wrote: post #2

One thing that stopped me from seeking the vanity plate - I learned that at least in Texas all plates are made by minimally paid prisoners. So any desire to finance that system beyond what's absolute possible minimum (i.e. regular plates) evaporated.

Imprisoning people for years seems like a much worse thing to do to people than underpaying them for work they do while locked up.

Is it that the latter can be called "slavery" that makes people upset?

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by btilly »

HWR_14 wrote: post #94
qingcharles wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not free everywhere. Many institutions in the USA charge you for your stay. You can stay in jail for a year and have the case dismissed and still be on the hook for thousands of dollars in rent.

Where? I've never heard of that

It's called pay-to-stay. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay-to-stay_%28imprisonment%29 for more.

This happened in Oregon to my kind of brother in law. (Married to half sister of my half siblings - what do you call that?)

He's Native American, so the local police thought that they could target him with a BS charge. They lost. The private jail that he'd been kept in, now that they weren't getting paid by the state, sued him for the cost of keeping him. Incidentally the counter sheriff is on the board of directors for the private prison in question.

Can you spell conflict of interest? Of course you can! Can you spell corruption? That too, wow!

Can anyone do a danged thing about it? Of course not! As long as they are only targeting people that nobody likes, like Native Americans, their victims won't get the time of day in our wonderful United States of America.

(I really wish I was making this up.)

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by btilly »

qingcharles wrote: post #78
btilly wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All true, but on the flip side they get free room and board... Joking aside, read the 13th amendment https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-13/ and pay close attention to the bit that reads, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted . In the United States, involuntary labor, slavery, and locking someone in a cell are all equally not allowed. And all equally al…

It's not free everywhere. Many institutions in the USA charge you for your stay. You can stay in jail for a year and have the case dismissed and still be on the hook for thousands of dollars in rent.

True. If you win your case, the taxpayer no longer pays. Lots of places have those pay to stay laws.

But if your case has not been officially lost, you can't be set to forced labor either.

(Of course our BS system in many places still charges exonerees after the fact despite the fact that it was a wrongful conviction.)

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by reactordev »

ruined wrote: post #71
SR2Z wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It sounds like it isn't optional everywhere, the pay is beyond inhuman, they don't always get any benefits at all, no training, don't safety and are overworked. Most of these are true, but I would push back on the pay angle. If a person is in jail, they are a ward of the state and have no expenses at all. There is no sense in paying them a "living wage" because they don't have to live off it. In any case, most ster…

>If a person is in jail, they are a ward of the state and have no expenses at all. There is no sense in paying them a "living wage" because they don't have to live off it. In any case, most stereotypical prison jobs would not cover the cost of incarcerating the employee. only the last sentence here is true. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/amer... many prisoners receive a bill for their incarce…

They don’t understand that not only tax payer funds go to these systems but the systems turn around and create victims of those in their care.

Paying to stay in jail should be done on an availability of funds, like bonds are (mostly), else it costs the tax payers. The shell companies that operate these prisons shouldn’t be allowed to charge inmates per diems if they are receiving tax payers dollars for them.

People think it’s all murders and rapists when that’s only 5% of the population at most. Most are in there for petty crime, drug charges, 3 strike rules, administrative chains, or mental health issues.

Yet for 27¢/day, will pick cotton for a local textile.

Re: Using TypeScript to obtain one of the rarest license plates

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Post by rsync »

jconley88 wrote: post #49

In CO, there isn't an online search. When you apply, you have to list your top options and hope one is available. I'm also not a normal person. I'm an engineer and this was not good enough for me. I emailed government employees until I figured out who was responsible for license plate records. I submitted a CORA (Colorado Open Records Request) for the entirety of their dataset. I had hoped to get the data on some reg…

The best possible license plates in Colorado all start with ZG …
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