Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT • Hacker News Board

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by baq » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 10:03 AM UTC

kgwgk wrote: post #90

abrbhat wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At some point the model providers will realize they don't need to provide apps, just enterprise-grade intelligence at scale in a pipe, much like utility companies providing electricity/water. Right now, they have to provide the apps to kick-off the adoption.

> much like utility companies providing electricity/water A capital intensive, low margin business. The dream of every company.

A natural monopoly in which you can't really lose. A retirement fund manager's dream.

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by egorfine » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 10:14 AM UTC

Another walled garden is what we needed, right.

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by FergusArgyll » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 10:15 AM UTC

asimpleusecase wrote: post #87

ITS A TRAP! If your app is successful their infrastructure will see all the traffic, your responses and will be able to mimic what you do and kick the husk of your app in the weeds. (Unless your function comes from some massive unique dataset they can’t by access to.)

How would they mimic zillow or canva??

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by manuelmoreale » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 10:17 AM UTC

StarterPro wrote: post #78

Once again I have to ask: Aren't we just obfuscating everything to the point of knowledge loss? Between long COVID and ai, nobody will be able to make fizzbuzz in Java, let alone code a frontend by hand.

Or think critically. Or write proper emails. Or a multitude of other things. Why bother when you can outsource everything to the computer. If this trend continues is gonna be interesting to see how people will evolve in 10 or 15 years.

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by dns_snek » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 10:41 AM UTC

baq wrote: post #91

kgwgk wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> much like utility companies providing electricity/water A capital intensive, low margin business. The dream of every company.

A natural monopoly in which you can't really lose. A retirement fund manager's dream.

Except AI companies are not a monopoly, never mind a natural monopoly. When ChatGPT first released it was popular to predict the death of Google because they were "so far behind".

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by pjmlp » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 10:48 AM UTC

aimon wrote: post #70

I think Brian Balfour called this well. It's the app store all over again. Have a platform. Open to the developers with a gold rush, then close the doors and monetise and canabalise the best uses cases. https://blog.brianbalfour.com/p/the-next-great-distribution-...

8 and 16 bit home computers => Internet => Feature phones SMS download codes => App Stores => AI App Stores => ....

Have to collect them all. :)

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by almostgotcaught » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 10:54 AM UTC

kgwgk wrote: post #90

abrbhat wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At some point the model providers will realize they don't need to provide apps, just enterprise-grade intelligence at scale in a pipe, much like utility companies providing electricity/water. Right now, they have to provide the apps to kick-off the adoption.

> much like utility companies providing electricity/water A capital intensive, low margin business. The dream of every company.

You can always depend on "brilliant" hn users to contribute the most braindead business hot-takes (not you but the person you're responding to).

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by FergusArgyll » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 11:04 AM UTC

digitaltrees wrote: post #58

They. Will. Steal. Anything. That. Works.

Explain how they will "steal" these apps? (currently available):

Adobe Photoshop AllTrails Booking.com Expedia Instacart OpenTable Spotify Tripadvisor Airtable Apple Music Canva Figma Lovable Replit Target Zillow

Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 11:06 AM UTC

simianwords wrote: post #72

arresin wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google literally just released this on their GitHub. It must be in ether.

Right https://developers.googleblog.com/introducing-a2ui-an-open-p... I swear I had made this prediction quite a while back but thanks for pointing it out :D

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Re: Developers can now submit apps to ChatGPT

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Post by TeMPOraL » Thu, Dec 18, 2025, 11:07 AM UTC

drsim wrote: post #82

aimon wrote: post #70

I think Brian Balfour called this well. It's the app store all over again. Have a platform. Open to the developers with a gold rush, then close the doors and monetise and canabalise the best uses cases. https://blog.brianbalfour.com/p/the-next-great-distribution-...

Distribution has always been monetized. What margin did a retailer take for putting your boxed software on the shelf? How about that magazine ad? Google search? And so on. Get over the idea that a platform should give you their distribution for free. The problem comes when there is no way for you to own the distribution, pay nothing to the platform, and still be able to build on top of it. That’s the closed portion w…

> Distribution has always been monetized. What margin did a retailer take for putting your boxed software on the shelf? How about that magazine ad? Google search? And so on. Get over the idea that a platform should give you their distribution for free.

As 'amelius said below, there used to be more platforms. This matters, because it made for a different balance of power. Especially with retailers - the producers typically had leverage over distributors, not the other way around.