Surely if Copilot was so useful and great, it wouldn't be free and they wouldn't be trying to force it down unwilling people's throats at every opportunity.
I'm beginning to think this AI stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be...
Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
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#92My TV only gets internet access when there is a firmware update I care about
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#93I don’t think Microsoft realizes that this is not a positive for their brand.
its none too good for LG either; also: i think this sort of behaviour is exactly how you chill updates of any sort. it may take a while but when it is publicly salient that updates are sophies choice, and large pie slices of devices stay stock and unconnected, that will dry up that watering hole. paranoia regarding un-updated devices will give way to paranoia regarding updates being used to screw you into something y…
I've had this with Android updates.
When you remove my ability to see if a Bluetooth device is connected with a security update, why would I willingly install any more of your updates?
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a positive for a nameless middle manager somewhere who can show their boss a graph with a line moving to the right and up with a title like "AI Adoption Across Platforms" and hit their bonus target.
This is 100% the why.
Whenever I see this much vehement agreement about something on HN, it sets off serious groupthink alarm bells.
Idk what the answer is, but it is not 100% this. It’s too simple and satisfying of an answer to be true.
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#96Makes me more and more glad that I never let my TV on any network and only use it as a display for Apple TV, the Blu-Ray player, and playing media from USB drives...
> Makes me more and more glad that I never let my TV on any network..
Sigh! These manufacturers have repeated this so many times that it is probably in their corporate subversion manual now. This is no consolation at all. They first introduce 'optional' features like this. Then they tighten the screw such that you get degraded performance if you don't use that feature. Finally they make it unavoidable. How are we missing it every time?
Haven't we seen how this evolved in the case of windows login using their 365 account? Haven't we seen how Android smartphone unlocking and custom ROM flashing got gradually more difficult over the years until we can't do that anymore?
If you rely on compromises or shortcuts out of this problem, you'll eventually find yourself without any. We need to nip this trend in the bud. Punish them with a tanked market.
Re: Microsoft Copilot AI Comes to LG TVs, and Can't Be Deleted
#97Put your "smart" TV behind a Linux HTPC or a free/libre Android ROM and never, ever allow it to communicate over the Internet.
> ... and never, ever allow it to communicate over the Internet.
I'm pretty sure they're working on solving that problem.
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#98> Additionally, LG has a setting called "Live Plus" that Reddit users highlighted. When it's turned on, the TV can recognize what's displayed on screen and use that viewing information for personalized recommendations and ads. LG describes it as an "enhanced viewing experience," Ah. So it's not "AI." It's an "opportunity to spy on every single thing you do."
Those are completely separate. "Live Plus" is a TV setting that has nothing to do with Copilot and has been on their TVs for a long time.
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#99And this is exactly why I never connect my TV to wifi
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#100I wonder if it is possible to install a standard Linux distro on LG TVs. There is KDE Plasma Bigscreen for a TV-like experience on such distros. https://plasma-bigscreen.org/ If not, there are some webOS exploits on this wiki page: https://wiki.debian.org/Exploits Hopefully the Vizio lawsuit will mean the right to repair software comes to TVs more easily. https://sfconservancy.org/copyleft-compliance/vizio.html
You can absolutely jailbreak them and install whatever
*If you have one that hasn't updated itself since last year.