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Framework Raises DDR5 Memory Prices by 50% for DIY Laptops
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#92Altman should be jailed for this. Single-handedly crashing consumer spending in an entire sector of the economy. At the very least for the reason that that was supposed to happen _after_ they had the AI in hand to supplant majority white collar labor, not before.
We’re contemplating jailing people for buying manufactured goods at the market price now?
Yes, and I actually think it's a symptom of advanced societal decay that you think this is somehow an unreasonable proposition.
What OpenAI is doing will drive up prices for years, shredding consumer welfare, limiting competition and forcing marginally-profitable products off the market, and they're not even going to use the RAM. They're wrecking supply chains simply because they no longer have any technical advantage now that Google and Anthropic have caught up and passed them, and have to resort to dirty tricks like this and digital heroin Sora to try and justify their valuation. No functioning society would or should allow you to get away with that.
Frankly, much worse things than jail should happen to Altman for this kind of torching of the commons, and jail is the watered-down compromise position.
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#93Original article from Framework Blog:
https://frame.work/blog/updates-on-memory-pricing-and-naviga...
Re: Framework Raises DDR5 Memory Prices by 50% for DIY Laptops
#94I bought a couple of terabytes of RAM and now I feel like one of those crypto-whales haha. It's just sitting there in the corner. One was a lucky one, too, because I tried to negotiate a guy to sell me a system with less RAM but he wouldn't discount it much. Now it pays for most of the cost of the damn thing. These spikes do happen. I remember one for hard drives after a storm. The surprising thing for me is how chea…
You don't NEED to fill the 12 ram slots. My personal 1U has an Epyc 9124 and only 4 of the 12 ram slots filled. I figured, ram will only get cheaper with time so I can fill the remaining 8 slots in the future. Turns out I was wrong, but regardless, the server runs fine on 4 sticks.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
The state of things...meaning AI companies buying up the world's supply of RAM
Yes. AI companies will continue to buy up all the RAM so you and I have to pay the cost for it. They will also eat up all the energy so you and I have to pay more for energy. They will also then try and put you and I out of a job. And if they fail to do so, they will then get your and my tax dollars to bail them out. There should be real AI research and technology development, but the way it’s being done right now is…
It's like cancer eating at the body.
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#96I thought Apple would get around and improve their memory prices with time, I guess it's the opposite: all manufacturers are now becoming Apple given these raises. I wonder what Apple's next move will be :-) EDIT: Spelling
I am wondering myself; this M1 is getting long in the tooth, maybe now is the time to upgrade.
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
We’re contemplating jailing people for buying manufactured goods at the market price now?
Yes? Reports are that OpenAI is buying unfinished memory kits which they have no capacity to complete. It appears that OpenAI is just buying them to remove them from the market and damage their competitors. In United States, that used to be considered against the law if we were actually enforcing such things.
Since COVID, this has been the norm for any industry that requires chips.
Operation handbook now dictates that you should have 3-4 years of all the ICs you'll need for production so you don't end up like the car manufacturers.
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#98There's an errant thing at the back of my mind, I can't help but wonder if this ram shortage could revive the ram dimm as a concept as so many manufacturers were adopting the soldered-ram approach. I'm sure though this won't come to pass
Retail DIMMs are more expensive than soldered RAM so that just makes things worse.
The price difference in terms of manufacturing cost is immaterial. But if people can't afford a machine with 32GB anymore then they're going to suffer one with 8GB knowing from the outset that it's not enough and then have a strong preference for the ability to upgrade it later when prices come back down or they get more money.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
The thing is, it seems like they are planning to force everyone else out of the market. Acquire all the RAM they can possibly get, leave none for the competition, pray to survive the entire mess. It's the inevitable peak of the venture capital pipeline, just this time it isn't individual industries (e.g. taxis with Uber, hotels with AirBnB) getting squeezed out by unsustainable pricing - it's the economy at large tha…
These gambits never work though. In 6 months you'll be able to get memory chips and GPUs for nothing..... There's a few historical examples here.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornering_the_market
!RemindMe six months
Of course I'm joking, there are LLMs to check these things now.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
These gambits never work though. In 6 months you'll be able to get memory chips and GPUs for nothing..... There's a few historical examples here.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornering_the_market
> In 6 months you'll be able to get memory chips and GPUs for nothing. I highly doubt that. Memory chip production takes years to scale up, which is partially a reason why the memory market (both RAM and solid-storage) is so susceptible to "pig cycles" - high prices incentivize new players to join the market (although less likely than decades ago, given just how much capital one needs and how complex the technology h…
You can play Counterstrike on a H100 if you really want to.