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Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by noitpmeder »

oceanplexian wrote: post #81
TrainedMonkey wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> we need a hyper-productive world where someone working a few hours a year generates enough wealth to secure a comfortable lifestyle up there with the best of them. This is naive, productivity increases had decoupled from compensation a long time ago. See https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/ for example. AI certainly can create wealth, and in fact already did (hey NVDA), but somehow that did not trickle down. I…

Why then, outside of Norway, Luxembourg, Switzerland, and the UAE (All of which are tiny countries, and at least two of them are Petrostates), does the United States have the world's highest median income with a population of over 342 million people? The typical American is insanely wealthy by global standards.

But it's not like AI did any of that...

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by josh_p »

Loughla wrote: post #80
treetalker wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My Administration must act with the Congress to ensure that there is a minimally burdensome national standard — not 50 discordant State ones. … Sounds like leaving it up to Congress! But then the administration vows to thwart state laws despite the vacuum of no extant preemption, so effectively imposing a type of supposed Executive preemption: > Until such a national standard exists, however, it is imperative that…

Also why are they small federal government states rights for things but big federal government centralized power for this? It doesn't make sense to me.

When you start thinking of the political elite as out of touch sociopathic aristocrats, it becomes easier to understand their behavior.

Their goal is to make money and enrich their own lives at the expense of everyone else.

Stephen Miller is just super weird though. Don’t bother trying to figure that guy out.

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by noitpmeder »

josh_p wrote: post #89
throw0101a wrote: post #8

Executive order (EO) count over the last few presidents: * Bush (41): 166 * Clinton (two terms): 364 * Bush (43; two terms): 291 * Obama (two terms): 276 * Trump (45): 220 * Biden: 162 * Trump (47; Source: * https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/executive-or... Someone commented that (one of?) the reason that Trump is using EOs so much is probably because is not willing (or able) to actually get deals on in…

Yes, and.. Each EO tests the waters a bit more with what the public and other branches will tolerate. As we’ve seen with numerous orders already, Congress and business will comply early because they think it will benefit them. Trump thinks himself a king. He acts like it. He’s attempting to normalize his behavior. He can’t deal with the legislature because it turns out white supremacy isn’t that popular. Who knew?

Apparently popular enough to get him elected. It's not like his supporters were under any pretense who or what they were voting for

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by noitpmeder »

yks wrote: post #85
dmix wrote: post #69

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Just like the last time Trump was president he is far from a traditional conservative regarding small government. People pretend the 2010 tea party is the same thing as Trump as some sort of gotcha, but he's never been that way. He's always been very assertive regarding expanding executive and federal power.

No one is surprised about that guy, those comments usually point out how "the 2010 tea party", and everyone else from the decades, if not centuries, of the conservative milieu, are suddenly all in on this.

The president isnt going to personally enrich himself and his cronies by _divesting_ power from his offce

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by fallingfrog »

As expected, the stupidest imaginable policy. Take all the guardrails completely off, even though the ones that are in place are already toothless. Don't worry, the free market will ensure that everything is turned into paperclips at the maximum possible speed.

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by slg »

oceanplexian wrote: post #79
rubyfan wrote: post #34

Is it me or does this seem like naked corruption at its worst? These tech CEOs hang out at the White House and donate to superfluous causes and suddenly the executive is protecting their interests. This does nothing to protect working US citizens from AI alien (agents) coming to take their jobs and displace their incomes.

> This does nothing to protect working US citizens from AI alien (agents) coming to take their jobs and displace their incomes. Where did you get the idea that banning new technology that could eliminate jobs is even remotely an American value? Going back to the Industrial Revolution the United States has been 100% gas pedal all the time on innovation and disruption, which has in turn created millions of jobs that di…

The patent system. I know someone will respond detailing why the patent system is pro-business, but it is objectively government regulation that puts restrictions on new technology, so it's proof that regulation of that sort is at least an American tradition if not fully an "American value".

Re: Ensuring a National Policy Framework for Artificial Intelligence

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Post by johnebgd »

slg wrote: post #98
oceanplexian wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This does nothing to protect working US citizens from AI alien (agents) coming to take their jobs and displace their incomes. Where did you get the idea that banning new technology that could eliminate jobs is even remotely an American value? Going back to the Industrial Revolution the United States has been 100% gas pedal all the time on innovation and disruption, which has in turn created millions of jobs that di…

The patent system. I know someone will respond detailing why the patent system is pro-business, but it is objectively government regulation that puts restrictions on new technology, so it's proof that regulation of that sort is at least an American tradition if not fully an "American value".

Patents and trademarks are the only ways to create legal monopolies. They are/were intended to reward innovation but despite good intentions are abused.
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