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Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by panick21_ »

KronisLV wrote: post #67
akdor1154 wrote: post #33

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They attempt to avoid them, though snaps are still available if you wish. Flatpak is installed by default and used by their app store, and Firefox is packaged as a deb so you can avoid the snap. I consider it a deshittified Ubuntu.

> I consider it a deshittified Ubuntu. This is more or less what I have used Linux Mint for (their Cinnamon desktop version is pretty okay, also used the XFCE one). Nice to have more options!

They are vendor of hardware, so much more aggressive about pushing new hardware support.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by panick21_ »

jack_tripper wrote: post #64
mixmastamyk wrote: post #17

Wow, I had heard they were late but didn't realize it was over a year and a half. Note that if you're that far behind on a project, the rational choice is to significantly cut its scope, and push the rest to the following releases.

Same though from me. Like WTF, we're about 4,5 months away from 26.04 LTS and they're just launching 24.04 NOW?! How is this supposed to convince people who are already happy with the KDE or Gnome or other variants of Ubuntu and which ship without such monumental delays, thay they should switch to Popos variant of Ubuntu? Such a long delay isn't reassuring at all.

They were pretty aggressive about pushing kernel version on 22.04, it really doesn't matter what its based on. I think they should just not use this version numbering, its more confusing then anything else.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by criddell »

lillecarl wrote: post #83
criddell wrote: post #78

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Who wants to run multiple widget sets though? You lose any semblance of your system having a native look and feel.

I want to run applications written with both Qt and GTK. I do not care much about "look and feel"

You say that, but you probably do care at least a little.

It benefits you when an application doesn't do surprising things. Even basic things like clicking in an edit control, it's better for you if that results in the same outcome across all apps (stuff like does it select all text? does it place the caret at the end?).

Even for command line apps, consistency is good (see https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1...). Are options specified with a hyphen? Two hyphens? A slash? Are lists delimited with comma or semi-colon or something else?

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by mmstick76 »

criddell wrote: post #78
jsk2600 wrote: post #55

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You do not need to have GNOME in order to run GTK apps - Pop_OS ships with GTK/QT libraries so all apps works as on Ubuntu.

Who wants to run multiple widget sets though? You lose any semblance of your system having a native look and feel.

GTK3, GTK4, and libadwaita applications do look native in COSMIC. In COSMIC Settings, navigate to Desktop > Appearance > Icons and toolkit theming. Or search "toolkit" and it will be a top result. In the context drawer that opens on the right, toggle "Apply current theme to GNOME apps". This will then allow the cosmic-settings-daemon to automatically generate CSS variables for GTK4 and libadwaita apps. If adw-gtk3 is installed, it will also apply those variables to GTK3 applications.

Qt4 and Qt5 applications are unsupported, but IgKh/CuteCosmic has a Qt6 Platform Theme that integrates with the cosmic theme system and applies that theming to Qt6 applications. Though it won't work in 24.04 because most of the KDE/Qt apps in this release are based on Qt5, and the version of Qt6 is too old.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by mmstick76 »

jack_tripper wrote: post #64
mixmastamyk wrote: post #17

Wow, I had heard they were late but didn't realize it was over a year and a half. Note that if you're that far behind on a project, the rational choice is to significantly cut its scope, and push the rest to the following releases.

Same though from me. Like WTF, we're about 4,5 months away from 26.04 LTS and they're just launching 24.04 NOW?! How is this supposed to convince people who are already happy with the KDE or Gnome or other variants of Ubuntu and which ship without such monumental delays, thay they should switch to Popos variant of Ubuntu? Such a long delay isn't reassuring at all.

It wasn't that long of a delay. Just a couple months. Also, keep in mind that this was the first release of COSMIC. Even if it had hypothetically taken an extra six months, that does not set the basis for a release cadence. There will be regular releases from this point.

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by bikelang »

physicles wrote: post #62
sharms wrote: post #29

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Yes they have an Nvidia image and I just used it on a 5080 last weekend, worked perfect

Piggybacking on this… do all nvidia cards have the same issue with Linux drivers, where the fan won’t ever go below 30%? I have a 3090 on Ubuntu 24 and hours of googling netted nothing that worked.

FWIW - the fans on my 4070ti super turn off during idle in pop, bazzite, and cachy (just like on windows). Definitely no being stuck at 30% that I’ve experienced

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by bikelang »

swisniewski wrote: post #51

I use Cosmic on a DGX Spark, as my daily driver, and it works pretty well. They don’t have a pop os iso for arm64, but they do have arm64 Debian repo. So I just took DGX os (what Nvidia ships on the device), added the pos os “releases” repo, and installed cosmic-session. It works like a charm and provides a super useful tiling experience out of the box. This is replacing my M3 Pro as my daily driver and I’ve been pre…

Just as an FYI - I just looked at the download page and Pop 24.04 now has an official arm64 ISO (including Arm w/ Nvidia)

Re: Pop_OS 24.04 LTS with COSMIC desktop environment

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Post by jojosbuddy »

Been using Ubuntu 24.10 on my ASUS 2in1 w/touchscreen and just swapped to this thinking it will be smooth like my desktop.

Well Ubuntu24.10 was way more predictable. PopOS issues: explicit sleep will not come out of sleep w/o a hard reboot (hold power 25sec). Lid works at least. touchscreen: no auto virtual keyboard, pressing a system icon just highlights them (vs pulldown menu) flipping to 2in1 tent mode, no rotation not set up. no drivers for WiFi7 (ubuntu had it). natural scrolling works on touch, doesn't work on mouse pad...well it doesn't work basically.

Going to submit bugs, maybe heading back to Ubuntu as I want this laptop to be my new dev machine (needs to be solid).

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