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Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by havblue »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #6

This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

There is a lot of YouTube content that is basically people playing with toys like Paw Patrol and having them interact in doll houses. I'm not a fan of this for my kids, and there will be a ton more of it. And yes, there will be political slop as well.

On the other hand there was a video about what happened to Mickey and Goofy in Vietnam... I'm probably okay with an updated version of that.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by alephnerd »

afavour wrote: post #20
jimbokun wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If OpenAI has exclusive rights to AI generation for Disney and other IP rights holders, that would create the kind of moat they've been missing so far.

All the more reason it's insane for Disney to be the one giving money!

These kinds of equity deals tend to include MFN clauses around inference pricing. Ik Anthropic did something similar a couple years ago.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by tuckerman »

dolphinscorpion wrote: post #85
embedding-shape wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but they're absolutely going to be commoditized I've been thinking the same since GPT3 too, and since ChatGPT, and since Claude and... But here I am, still paying for ChatGPT Pro because it's literally has the best model you can get access to for a fixed price each month, and none of the others so far come close. I still use Anthropic's and Google's models to compare/validate against, because I assumed at one point…

And how much are you paying? I pay $20 a month, but I doubt OpenAI makes money on me; they probably lose a lot.

Pro is the $200/month plan

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by conartist6 »

bilbo0s wrote: post #84
impulser_ wrote: post #53

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I guess it will depend on how good their security is, because I'm assuming Disney is entering this deal with hard guidelines on what will be allowed.

This. Don't believe for a second that Sora will allow you to make racist content with Disney characters. That said, there are a lot of other models out there that care about neither licensing nor alignment. So those will allow you to make racist content. Then you can do whatever you like with that generated content. A lot of IP owners will learn that there is more than one way to skin a cat. It's easier than people t…

Once you make the content it's just content, no? How the hell are you going to ban racism? A lot of racism is "dog whistle" stuff anyway -- it's designed to convey a message to people who already know what is being suggested while seeming innocuous to any enforceable standards of decency... The racists will surely have no trouble bending the models to produce Disney content that is in practice used to promote and celebrate racism.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by zrobotics »

bilbo0s wrote: post #84
impulser_ wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it will depend on how good their security is, because I'm assuming Disney is entering this deal with hard guidelines on what will be allowed.

This. Don't believe for a second that Sora will allow you to make racist content with Disney characters. That said, there are a lot of other models out there that care about neither licensing nor alignment. So those will allow you to make racist content. Then you can do whatever you like with that generated content. A lot of IP owners will learn that there is more than one way to skin a cat. It's easier than people t…

I'm sure that's what Disney's lawyers specified in the contracts and what their execs expect. However, judging by how LLM controls have gone in the past, I'm fully expecting to see a slew of awful content featuring Disney's characters in the days after this launches. OpenAI also probably won't ever be able to actually stop people from generating harmful content with the characters, but the volume of awful stuff will probably eventually slow down as people get bored and move onto the next controversial thing.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by dagmx »

bilbo0s wrote: post #84
impulser_ wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it will depend on how good their security is, because I'm assuming Disney is entering this deal with hard guidelines on what will be allowed.

This. Don't believe for a second that Sora will allow you to make racist content with Disney characters. That said, there are a lot of other models out there that care about neither licensing nor alignment. So those will allow you to make racist content. Then you can do whatever you like with that generated content. A lot of IP owners will learn that there is more than one way to skin a cat. It's easier than people t…

How can you prevent it from making that content? People will find a way to combine certain words together to make it happen.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by simonw »

bilbo0s wrote: post #84
impulser_ wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess it will depend on how good their security is, because I'm assuming Disney is entering this deal with hard guidelines on what will be allowed.

This. Don't believe for a second that Sora will allow you to make racist content with Disney characters. That said, there are a lot of other models out there that care about neither licensing nor alignment. So those will allow you to make racist content. Then you can do whatever you like with that generated content. A lot of IP owners will learn that there is more than one way to skin a cat. It's easier than people t…

Given the creativity of the jailbreaking community I will be very impressed if OpenAI manage to reliably prevent Sora from creating disagreeable content with Disney characters.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by dist-epoch »

tonyedgecombe wrote: post #73

Surely OpenAI should be paying Disney for the rights to their content. What an upside down period we are living in.

You pay for advertisement and product placement.

Not the other way around.

We live in an atenttion economy, if Disney content is not in your face on all mediums (which now include AI slop), they lose money.

Re: The Walt Disney Company and OpenAI Partner on Sora

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Post by bombcar »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #6

This will not end well for Disney, there were certain historical characters removed from Sora 2 because people kept making racist videos that are hard to censor, and it became increasingly unhinged. This feels like another circular investment where Disney is hoping to make money back I'm sure. On the other hand, assuming they do the freemium stuff, I look forward to making a few videos of my daughters favorite Disney…

Grok create already lets you make 6 second videos, though sometimes you have to say "Italian plumber" or "famous princesses".
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