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Re: The fuck off contact page

#91
post #38

As someone that works on this space, with the kind of products that want this kind of contact pages, they forgot to mention that even behind login walls, in some products you only get to create a support ticket if there are enough developers with the right level of certifications and partnership.

One issue in web hosting companies which I see is that to get support through ticket, you need a login page and you cannot complete the login process until you sign up with a credit card

That literally annoyed me so much even on something like hetzner.

Hetzner team if you are reading this, although I love email platform, is there any way that your support stops being AI (which annoyed me) but rather you can have an discord,matrix (preferred),telegram, heck IRC or even slack for what its worth where I can message the team if I wanted a custom solution on top of hetzner etc.

Fwiw, Upcloud provided support and heard me out even if I didnt share my credit card info so massive respects to them and I am sure that my experience with hetzner has always been positive (they responded to me once on hackernews which was peak) but maybe if they are reading this (then hello!) and yea, please hetzner I hope you change your contact page to be more suitable or hear my complaints as I like hetzner a lot too

Personally, I am starting to value contact support which I thought didn't matter a lot nowadays. It doesn't matter if its cheap or not but rather if I can talk to their team once about any product and see if I can match their terms of service and similar basically or other issues in general too.

Also Hetzner, another point, I would love to be able to write articles for you and get the 50$ (I will read it again to see if I can "write" according to the conditions but yea) and similar but once again I need a hetzner account which required credit card/debit card validation.

Re: The fuck off contact page

#92
post #39

I'm not sure I've ever seen a contact page that wasn't like this. I always felt it was basically reasonable. if you can direct someone to an answer without having to waste money/time/compute on providing custom service, then that seems basically reasonable to me. yes it's annoying, but it's not a pattern I've ever felt was particularly dark. I'm perfectly happy with "speaking to a human" being the last port of call t…

Except the "fuck off contact page" doesn't have a way to speak to a human who can solve a problem, it only has a way to talk to sales which is clearly the wrong department.

Re: The fuck off contact page

#93

Can I change the topic to the current hiring process? Decline mails feel like an even bigger fuck you. Sometimes you don't get a proper reason and it leaves you confused. There's this one company I applied to, I already knew someone there (not close or anything) and from his tone it seemed like I could help them out a lot. They simply needed more manpower, and I already worked with that stack. I got declined via mail…

I doubt that anyone saw your resume, let alone glanced at it. It's more likely that your resume didn't make it past their applicant filter for some reason.

There is an ATS (applicant tracking system) that companies use, it rhymes with 'trash be', and I always get auto-reject emails within a day when applying to positions managed through their system. A while back I submitted a request for them to send me a copy of the private information they had on me. What they sent back was far, far off from anything on my resume, so I had them delete it.

Based on that, I have zero confidence that any application on that system is accurately represented. I expect other ATS' are similar.

Re: The fuck off contact page

#95
Sometimes I take it as a challenge to find the real contact and talk to a real human in support. When I do that I feel like I completed the final level on Wolfenstein game.

Re: The fuck off contact page

#96
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do we know that for a fact? You described them as a "web development consultant", but I couldn't tell for certain what their exact role on this project was. Their services page ( https://www.nicchan.me/services/ ) lists both "Web Application front-ends" and "translate your designs into a scalable system", so I think they offer a range.

> "translate your designs into a scalable system To be fair telling customers to f** off when they want to reach out for help scales infinitely

And that is likely why it's a common tactic for large companies.

Re: The fuck off contact page

#97
As always, I was writing a comment to another comment and thought that it might be relevant to create a new (top?) comment itself too (sorry if its "plagiarism")

But basically one other type of such contact pages are when a company has such a contact page + it only works for customers who have logged in and they can only login entirely if they give their credit/debit card info.

I found it to be the case for hetzner,contabo basically. OVH had a discord server which I could join to ask some basic inqueries/support, I never understand the companies which do not have any such things like discord,telegram etc.

In an ideal world I would want them to run matrix or open source but even if they are on discord, it can be light years ahead of the contact page they have right now which I simply don't understand.

I wish to be more anonymous with my credit/debit card info, I recently went into nerding about vps providers basically and signing up via crypto for all its hate was something I enjoyed. (Funny how I linked my previous crypto comments to this contact page idea)

I think ignorance can play a deal in it. I don't think all companies do it out of malice as the article points out, some do it by ignorance. So in a way, Kudos for raising awareness about it.

Re: The fuck off contact page

#99

Urgh... One of the worst things, when you want to contact someone and they have hidden every means of doing so. It reflects badly on the companies that do this and questions why such pages exist to begin with. I understand why companies hate spam, but when a company hides customer service, that should be a major red flag and reeks of cowardice. Customers can and do have major problems, not just Karen type issues, but…

The worst of all worlds is when something arguably part of the core web experience doesn't have it

Here's your Facebook page to talk to all of your friends. Oh, you got banned? TOO BAD

Re: The fuck off contact page

#100

Urgh... One of the worst things, when you want to contact someone and they have hidden every means of doing so. It reflects badly on the companies that do this and questions why such pages exist to begin with. I understand why companies hate spam, but when a company hides customer service, that should be a major red flag and reeks of cowardice. Customers can and do have major problems, not just Karen type issues, but…

The worst of all worlds is when something arguably part of the core web experience doesn't have it Here's your Facebook page to talk to all of your friends. Oh, you got banned? TOO BAD

Yes, Faecebook is one of the worst. I hate companies that blether on about community guidelines but refuse to say how you violated them. (Which in some cases may be an error.)
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