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Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

#91

Post by nromiun »

reppap wrote: post #61

One thing that's really nice about codeberg is how fast the pages load. Browsing GitHub often feels very sluggish. Obviously there's a difference in scale there, but I hope codeberg can keep being fast.

That is surprising. It is the opposite for me.

  $ time curl -L 'https://codeberg.org/'
  real    0m3.063s
  user    0m0.060s
  sys     0m0.044s

  $ time curl -L 'https://github.com/'
  real    0m1.357s
  user    0m0.077s
  sys     0m0.096s

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

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Post by skydhash »

sepisoad wrote: post #81

I totally agree, Microsoft is ruining everything with AI, like all Microsoft product have been on decline for years even before the LLM era, and now they are on an even steeper decline. it makes me sad to see that github is now going through the same shit, and people are using other random half-ass alternatives, it’s not easy to keep track of your favourite open-source projects across many source forgeries. we need s…

> it’s not easy to keep track of your favourite open-source projects across many source forgeries.

Most public forge instances and web presence for open source projects have RSS feeds.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

#95

Post by sunnyday_002 »

tacker2000 wrote: post #56

To be fair this has more to do with Github Actions than Github, which from the beginning was never really going to rival any professional solution. The people at Zig should use proper CI tools and not something that a big service provider is offering as an afterthought.

What is wrong with GitHub Actions other than the outages? I've never hit a issue myself.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

#96

Post by DarkNova6 »

mkornaukhov wrote: post #39

IMHO, the main advantage of github is that it is an ecosystem. This is a well-thought-out Swiss knife: a pioneering (but no longer new) PR system, convenient issues, as well as a well-formed CI system with many developed actions and free runners. In addition, it is best to use code navigation simply in a web browser. You write code, and almost everything works effortlessly. Having a sponsorship system is also great,…

Would you say Github has any significant advantages over Gitlab in this regard? I always found them to be on par, with incremental advantages on either side.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

#97

Post by Left5250 »

nromiun wrote: post #91
reppap wrote: post #61

One thing that's really nice about codeberg is how fast the pages load. Browsing GitHub often feels very sluggish. Obviously there's a difference in scale there, but I hope codeberg can keep being fast.

That is surprising. It is the opposite for me. $ time curl -L 'https://codeberg.org/' real 0m3.063s user 0m0.060s sys 0m0.044s $ time curl -L 'https://github.com/' real 0m1.357s user 0m0.077s sys 0m0.096s

That depends on location and GitHub pages generally take a while to execute all the javascript for a usable page even after the html is fetched while pages on Codeberg require much less javascript to be usable and are quite usable even without javascript.

Here are my results for what it's worth

  $ time curl -o /dev/null -s -L 'https://codeberg.org'

  real    0m0.907s
  user    0m0.027s
  sys     0m0.009s

  $ time curl -o /dev/null -s -L 'https://github.com/'

  real    0m0.514s
  user    0m0.028s
  sys     0m0.016s

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

#98

Post by sunnyday_002 »

CafeRacer wrote: post #54
mkornaukhov wrote: post #39

IMHO, the main advantage of github is that it is an ecosystem. This is a well-thought-out Swiss knife: a pioneering (but no longer new) PR system, convenient issues, as well as a well-formed CI system with many developed actions and free runners. In addition, it is best to use code navigation simply in a web browser. You write code, and almost everything works effortlessly. Having a sponsorship system is also great,…

I'd rather solve advent of code in brainfuck than have to debug their CI workflows ever again.

Surely you just need the workflow to not have embedded logic but call out to a task manager so you can do the same locally?

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

#99

Post by mittermayr »

I hate these constant drama posts, but I am all for seeing competition. I think it's good to have a couple of top-tier companies offering the same service, and especially with git, it's been... lacklustre outside of Github, I'd say. Bitbucket was totally nice, but Atlassian and Jira and meh... Github has (mostly) steered clear of cross-product promotions until the CoPilot era washed all over us, and I wonder for how long they can continue to thrive off the power of brand-awareness.

Same effect at play watching all the top-tier AI corps under heavy competitive fire still, trying hard to keep the audience attached while battling to stay on top of (or keep up with) the competition. This mainly (for now) benefits the user. If OpenAI were to trailblaze on their own, we'd all be paying through the roof for even the most basic GPT by now.

Re: Zig quits GitHub, says Microsoft's AI obsession has ruined the service

#100

Post by sunnyday_002 »

DarkNova6 wrote: post #96
mkornaukhov wrote: post #39

IMHO, the main advantage of github is that it is an ecosystem. This is a well-thought-out Swiss knife: a pioneering (but no longer new) PR system, convenient issues, as well as a well-formed CI system with many developed actions and free runners. In addition, it is best to use code navigation simply in a web browser. You write code, and almost everything works effortlessly. Having a sponsorship system is also great,…

Would you say Github has any significant advantages over Gitlab in this regard? I always found them to be on par, with incremental advantages on either side.

One of my favourite GitHub features is the ability to do a code search over the whole of GitHub, not sure GitLab has the same when I use to use it?
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