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Re: SmartTube Compromised

#91
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It's kind of shocking to me that so many people would download an app like this and sign in using their actual YouTube account.

I think it's more shocking to people how much YouTube Premium costs.

I have premium but also this app. It has SponsorBlock and better UI customization than the official one.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

#92
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Is $14 dollars for ad-free, unlimited access to literally billions of videos really a steep price? Personally if I were to get rid of all but one of my media subscriptions I would stick with this one, since it's got everything - entertainment, education, inspiration, you name it.

It's >12x the ad revenue they bring in per monthly-active YouTube user (suggesting they'd still be happy with a much lower price), and the price has increased 75% in the last decade (compared to the 40% real inflation over that period, suggesting they intend to continue increasing the price till public backlash or other effects reduce their total revenue). Plus they're boiling the frog, slowly adding ads back in to m…

> the price has increased 75% in the last decade

It launched at $9.99[1] and is now $13.99[2] which I believe to be a 40% increase, i.e. flat in real dollars. If like most people you subscribe for a year, it's only $11.67/mo.

1: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/youtube-free...

2: https://www.youtube.com/premium

Re: SmartTube Compromised

#93
> Do not download SmartTube from any app store, APK websites or blogs; these were uploaded by other people and may contain malware or ads. SmartTube is not officially published on any app store. Sadly, the Google PlayStore does not allow ad-free Youtube apps using unofficial APIs.

Maybe should actually switch to releasing via F-Droid.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

#94
post #9

It's kind of shocking to me that so many people would download an app like this and sign in using their actual YouTube account.

I really couldn't care less about me youtube account

thats super cool! some people care a lot, some people dont care at all. what a strange world.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

#95

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YouTube is 10x the quality and 10x the quantity than any other video service. As for the ads, YouTube Premium now has built-in sponsor skip. They can't really block sponsored segments, as that is a freedom of speech issue and also something they can't easily determine. Creators can just omit that some product is sponsored.

> YouTube is 10x the quality and 10x the quantity than any other video service. I guess you could say YouTube surfaces a larger span of quality, from really shit quality to incredible high quality, which I guess is cool. But since they provide zero tools to actually discover the really high quality, and on top of that decide they know better what I want to watch than me (like the subscriptions page not starting with…

They provide all the tools to discover high quality videos and channels. It's called "like and subscribe". If you use those features, it doesn't take long before YouTube shows you only high quality videos. And there's also the dislike button and "Do not recommend this channel again", if you need.

> Freedom of speech in the US...

Freedom of speech is a subject which is much larger than the US constitution. I'm not saying YouTube isn't legally allowed to block sponsored segments. I'm saying that they might not want to because they don't want to limit their creators' speech in that matter. Especially considering how easy it would be to side-step. What would be their reason? They've already made it easy to skip sponsored segments.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

#96
post #23

I really hope Google doesn't pick this out (and similar events) as further justification for getting rid of APK-based installation.

Blocking file-based installations was never planned. It's fake news and always has been. It's all about requiring code signing for all code so that malware-spreading authors can be easily blocked by adding their signing key fingerprint to the blocklist.

It doesn't matter whether the app is installed via Play Store, Huawei's or Samsung's store etc., or from APK.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

#97
post #38
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is $14 dollars for ad-free, unlimited access to literally billions of videos really a steep price? Personally if I were to get rid of all but one of my media subscriptions I would stick with this one, since it's got everything - entertainment, education, inspiration, you name it.

I am not going to watch billions of Videos. Its not entirely ad free, just fewer ads, AFAIK sponsored segments remain so there are still ads, sometimes quite lengthy ones. $14/month is $168 an year, and if you subscribe to multiple other video services the annual total is going to be quite high.

sponsored segments are skipped with a single button push, so they are negligible. it also comes with yt music

Re: SmartTube Compromised

#98

Announcement from the dev, in the project GitHub and Patreon: Friends, it seems that my digital signature has been exposed. This signature protects the app from fake and malicious updates, so there is a risk that someone may try to release counterfeit versions under my name. To completely eliminate any threats, I’ve decided to stop using the current signature and switch to a new one. Because of this, the app’s identi…

> To completely eliminate any threats, I’ve decided to stop using the current signature and switch to a new one. Because of this, the app’s identifier will also change. You don’t need to delete the old app (but it will no longer receive updates)

I'm curious if this is the best idea? Like, if you don't read all the GitHub releases thoroughly or miss the HN material, and instead you just auto-install updates, you downloaded a malware-infested version which will be on your device until you learn otherwise?

Re: SmartTube Compromised

#99
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Yes, and you choose to risk losing the most important platform to humanity next to Wikipedia. Youtube should be a public service.

I am dubious about the importance of Youtube. If it disappeared tomorrow how long would it take for most videos to reappear elsewhere? Some of the creators I watch do have the videos available elsewhere. Veritasium is on Odysee, lots of people are on Nebula (and release videos there that are not on Youtube), etc. I think there is a good argument that having a single dominant platform has been harmful.

Imo, most videos would never be re-uploaded somewhere else. Currently-active creators that choose to keep a backup copy of their videos are probably the minority of creators.

Re: SmartTube Compromised

#100
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That's actually worse. They used to have a separate YouTube subscription. I don't want (to pay for) YouTube Music, because I already have Apple Music and Tidal, which I prefer.

This is not accurate. The entire time that YouTube Premium (Red) existed, a subscription to it always included the music service.

Also, since Youtube Music is just a skin over Youtube, it's not true that your subscription must necessarily be cheaper if there were no Youtube Music.
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