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Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Is it really here to stay? If the wheels fells off the investment train and ChatGPT etc. disappeared tomorrow, how many people would be running inference locally? I suspect most people either wouldn't meet the hardware requirements or would be too frustrated with the slow token generation to bother. My mom certainly wouldn't be talking to it anymore. Remember that a year or two ago, people were saying something simil…

>that they were the future of sharing content online nobody was saying that

People right here on HN were adamant my next house would be purchased using an NFT. And similar absurd claims about blockchain before that.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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somebody said once we are mining "low-background tokens" like we are mining low-background (radiation) steel post WW2 and i couldnt shake the concept out of my head (wrote up in https://www.latent.space/i/139368545/the-concept-of-low-back... - but ironically repeating something somebody else said online is kinda what i'm willingly participating in, and it's unclear why human-origin tokens should be that much higher s…

Low background steel is no longer necessary. "...began to fall in 1963, when the Partial Nuclear Test Ban Treaty was enacted, and by 2008 it had decreased to only 0.005 mSv/yr above natural levels. This has made special low-background steel no longer necessary for most radiation-sensitive uses, as new steel now has a low enough radioactive signature." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-background_steel

Interesting. I guess that analogously, we might find that X years after some future AI content production ban, we could similarly start ignoring the low background token issue?

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes, because iOS/macOS translates double dashes to em dashes. I think there may be a way to disable this, but I don’t care enough to bother. If people want to think my posts are AI generated, oh well.

> Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes It depends if you put the space before and after the dashes--that, to be clear, are meant to be there--or if you don't.

I cannot remember ever reading a book where there was a space around the dashes.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes, because iOS/macOS translates double dashes to em dashes. I think there may be a way to disable this, but I don’t care enough to bother. If people want to think my posts are AI generated, oh well.

> Anytime I do this — and I did it long before AI did — they are always em dashes It depends if you put the space before and after the dashes--that, to be clear, are meant to be there--or if you don't.

What, no love for our friend the en-dash?

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Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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True, but there's probably many ways to do this and unless AI content starts falsifying tons of its metadata (which I'm sure would have other consequences), there's definitely a way. Plus other sites that link to the content could also give away it's date of creation, which is out of the control of the AI content.

I have heard of a forum (I believe it was Physics Forums) which was very popular in the older days of the internet where some of the older posts were actually edited so that they were completely rewritten with new content. I forget what the reasoning behind it was, but it did feel shady and unethical. If I remember correctly, the impetus behind it was that the website probably went under new ownership and the new own…

> website probably went under new ownership

According to the article, it was the founder himself who was doing this.

Re: Search tool that only returns content created before ChatGPT's public release

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besides for training future models, is this really such a big deal? most of the AI-gened text content is just replacing content-farm SEO-spam anyway. the same stuff that any half-awares person wouldn't have read in the past is now slightly better written, using more em dashes and instances of the word "delve". if you're consistently being caught out by this stuff then likely you need to improve your search hygiene, n…

> besides for training future models, is this really such a big deal? most of the AI-gened text content is just replacing content-farm SEO-spam anyway.

Yes, it is because of the other side of the coin. If you are writing human-generated, curated content, previously you would just do it in your small patch of Internet, and probably SEs (Google...) will pick it up anyway because it was good quality content. You just didn't care about SEO-driven shit anyway. Now you nicely hand-written content is going to be fed into LLM training and it's going to be used - whatever you want it or not - in the next generation of AI slop content.

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