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What about their dad’s & uncle’s? Mum’s male friends? I don’t know, external (outside the family) isn’t the only source of “mentorship” and we should stop trying to pretend it is
I'm flagging this based on previous experience with similar threads.
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> It’s quite telling that perhaps less than a decade of taking women seriously led to a a vitriol filled backlash full of Tates, Trumps and the manosphere. 1. It's been about 30 years since the "strong independent women" meme first started in popular media. 2. Where is the vitriol and backlash in my post to which you are referring to? Your response looks like a canned one that can be inserted into any discussion abou…
> It's been about 30 years since the "strong independent women" meme first started in popular media. Much longer than that. While there was significant pre-war feminism, it really took off in the 1960s. Perhaps what people mean is a sort of post-"Bechdel test" world, where people will be sharply criticized if they make a piece of media that only has (properly characterized) male characters. I see it as a co-existence…
Maybe it’s because boys have been told a literal wild animal is preferable to any of the male adults around
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Tbh I do not know but I'm sick and tired of seeing these threads devolve in the most cringe way possible. Tech already has a bad reputation in this respect and HN really isn't helping. And reading some of the comments in this thread that assessment was spot on.
> Tech already has a bad reputation in this respect and HN really isn't helping. You are part of HN, now is your chance at helping. Discussion means that you will see opinions that are plainly wrong. That's a good place to argue and present better opinions. If you don't present better opinions, no one will be convinced. If you don't voice your opinions, you might not known that they are wrong or harmful. I've voiced…
Besides, after 18 years here some things have become a little predictable.
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> It’s quite telling that perhaps less than a decade of taking women seriously led to a a vitriol filled backlash full of Tates, Trumps and the manosphere. 1. It's been about 30 years since the "strong independent women" meme first started in popular media. 2. Where is the vitriol and backlash in my post to which you are referring to? Your response looks like a canned one that can be inserted into any discussion abou…
> It's been about 30 years since the "strong independent women" meme first started in popular media. Much longer than that. While there was significant pre-war feminism, it really took off in the 1960s. Perhaps what people mean is a sort of post-"Bechdel test" world, where people will be sharply criticized if they make a piece of media that only has (properly characterized) male characters. I see it as a co-existence…
Co-existence indeed.
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Discrimination along protected attributes such as gender would be highly illegal though, so no doubt you’d have tons of evidence to present beyond “gossipy HR ladies”.
I didn't mention gossip at all. Are you pretending to quote something I never said, to just perfectly illustrate the bad faith nonsense that is ever-injected into even simple conversations about this topic? It might be worth Googling James Damore as an early example of this chilling effect.
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I didn't mention gossip at all. Are you pretending to quote something I never said, to just perfectly illustrate the bad faith nonsense that is ever-injected into even simple conversations about this topic? It might be worth Googling James Damore as an early example of this chilling effect.
ok so no evidence of highly illegal mass gender based discrimination.
This seems like a very roundabout way of saying there was no evidence of discrimination against women :-/
Where are you going with this? Because if "no evidence == did not happen", then that's true for the decades prior to the 90s, right?
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Where do you think this should be discussed if not here?
Tbh I do not know but I'm sick and tired of seeing these threads devolve in the most cringe way possible. Tech already has a bad reputation in this respect and HN really isn't helping. And reading some of the comments in this thread that assessment was spot on.