I tried Motiff and penpot, to be framk Motif was way superior than both figma and penpot in terms of rendering and performance with large design files. unfortunately they shutdown due to lawsuits. Went back to figma.
Penpot: The Open-Source Figma
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Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
For now. Mattermost too used to be cheaper than Slack, and Gitlab too used to be cheaper than GitHub. I know the story, "look we did X, the open-source Y" and two years in you now have two versions, the free and the "enterprise" one with exclusive features.
What would be a better way to fund large-scale open source projects in your opinion? Please don’t say donations because that doesn’t work for something as complex as the projects you mentioned Edit: ok there are some where it works like Blender - no idea how they do it though…
There are multiple models:
1. Like Sentry - open source all the features, provide the cloud (hosted) version. Most businesses don't want to self-host, but want a bit cheaper alternative
2. Paid tier, buy once - own forever with 1 year update support. Later you can charge lower price to extend the update cycle.
3. Blender model - donations. Very hard to get it right.
4. Laravel/Next.js model - Open source the tooling, monetize the platform
Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma
#93I dunno if I can move to a design platform that doesn't have a silly name. It'd ruin the joy I get every day when I open it.
Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma
#94I really wanted to like penpot, but when I tried a few months ago, simply navigating between pages (even on the example documents) was causing parts of the document to change in bizarre ways. I didn't want that level of risk with documents I actually cared about, so continued to use figma. I guess it's time to give it another shot. EDIT: still broken 8 months later :(
I think you should post a issue at this point D:
Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
Penpot is also implemented in Clojure/ClojureScript. ClojureScript is a Clojure Dialect which compiles down to JavaScript. So there is no Java involved on the frontend :)
Perhaps my bad. I just don’t know Clojure at all, and honestly it might be the first time I’m seeing it, hence the mistake. My quick search prior to my posting returned this: >Clojure is a dynamic and functional dialect of the programming language Lisp on the Java platform. So I thought this is built on Java, or like that. I’d love if someone could explain it in simple terms, as I’d love to drop the ‘Java = bad’ atti…
There are a few things to unpack here. Clojure is a lisp hosted on the Java virtual machine (JVM). Subsequently, someone created Clojurescript which is an implementation (of the vast majority of) Clojure that compiles to JavaScript. The majority of Clojure code can run on either.
“Java = bad” is also something that you should probably drop. The JVM in particular is a very robust host and there’s a large ecosystem for it. Java the language has also improved over the years, but the JVM is great (and has a large market share as a result).
Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma
#96I really wanted to like penpot, but when I tried a few months ago, simply navigating between pages (even on the example documents) was causing parts of the document to change in bizarre ways. I didn't want that level of risk with documents I actually cared about, so continued to use figma. I guess it's time to give it another shot. EDIT: still broken 8 months later :(
I think you should post a issue at this point D:
I raised the issue in the forums at the time, with video captures demonstrating the issue(s).
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It's not a lie if no one is abusing it. It absolutely is a lie, but you might live in a society where constant lying has been normalized. Personally, I believe that society would be better off if companies were held to the letter of their words.
Because that’s not a lie; under special circumstances, it can be true. For example, consider a restaurant that offers free rice refills because Asian people love eating rice to fill up. An employee working overtime who really needs it can get as many refills as they want. Of course, this system falls apart if everyone starts doing it, as the restaurant would need to bake that cost into the price to sustain the busine…
A dystopia is where people lie about free rice bowls to get people in the door but can't deliver. That's not nice things its taking advantage of a lie and blaming people who take up the offer.
Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma
#98I really wanted to like penpot, but when I tried a few months ago, simply navigating between pages (even on the example documents) was causing parts of the document to change in bizarre ways. I didn't want that level of risk with documents I actually cared about, so continued to use figma. I guess it's time to give it another shot. EDIT: still broken 8 months later :(
I've loaded an example document and do not see what you mean when navigating between pages. A problem like that should be extremely jarring and it is very hard to believe it would be ignored.
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It's not a lie if no one is abusing it. Travel to high trust societies if you don't get what I mean. Things would be so much easier if we could expect human decency and ethics, even if there is no law against it, because it goes against our values as humans.
Someone will abuse it though, so why bother with the bullshit You don't build high trust societies with lies
"You don't build high trust societies with lies"
Yes because you build it with trust, I trust you to not ruin this things so everyone can enjoy it
I can understand where you coming from because when I watch YT videos about people that exploit the loophole or game the system, people literally praise them for "beating the game" and this is happen mostly with US where everyone is materialistic
but my counter argument is game theory, where everyone can cooperate for betterment of your environment
Re: Penpot: The Open-Source Figma
#100I really wanted to like penpot, but when I tried a few months ago, simply navigating between pages (even on the example documents) was causing parts of the document to change in bizarre ways. I didn't want that level of risk with documents I actually cared about, so continued to use figma. I guess it's time to give it another shot. EDIT: still broken 8 months later :(
I've loaded an example document and do not see what you mean when navigating between pages. A problem like that should be extremely jarring and it is very hard to believe it would be ignored.
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