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Re: Learning music with Strudel

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Post by venturecruelty »

Sammi wrote: post #67
simonw wrote: post #60

I've been seeing a few links to Strudel recently so I went digging to see how old the project is - looks like it launched in April 2022 https://loophole-letters.vercel.app/strudel It came out of the same team as Tidal Cycles, a Haskell live-coding music tool which was first released around 2009. https://tidalcycles.org/docs/around_tidal/tidal_history/

Such a good example of why everything is becoming js. Because it's where the users are. Anything that isn't in js will just languish comparatively. Everything is becoming js because everything is becoming js.

Tidal Cycles is hardly languishing. Not everything needs a billion users and VC funding.

Re: Learning music with Strudel

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Post by venturecruelty »

cpill wrote: post #72
lomase wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Strudel is TidalCycles but in javascript.

yeah, but TidalCycles doesn't have the interactive code that shows you what is playing or have inline sliders :P

Strudel doesn't have all of the advanced features of TidalCycles. It really just depends on what you need. Strudel is easier to get started with, and definitely more visual/immediate, but TidalCycles has the full power of Haskell, longer history, and more advanced tooling. Either way, it's really nice to see people getting more involved in programmatic music, regardless of which tool they use. :)

Re: Learning music with Strudel

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Post by venturecruelty »

raphar wrote: post #4

I posted this link, some days ago: Coding Trance Music from Scratch (Again) [video]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu5rnQkfO6M It´s a well done programming and music performance

A slightly older Switch Angel trance video is how I learned about Strudel/TidalCycles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWXCCBsOMSg. Her narration over top makes it the perfect trance track. "More chaos brings more power. More power brings more control." I desperately want a clean sample of that.

Re: Learning music with Strudel

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Post by venturecruelty »

faxmeyourcode wrote: post #2

I've run across more and more strudel musicians (developers?) doing a kind of live coding performance art and posting clips on tiktok and reels. It's really entertaining to watch. I've been meaning to dabble in it.

Algorave definitely seems to be having a moment! I know the scene has been around for a while (live chiptune shows have been a thing for years), but it seems like the Strudel-specific live coding shows are rapidly becoming popular. I love to see it. As someone who likes both programming and music, it's awesome to see people mix both and get fantastic results.

Re: Learning music with Strudel

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Post by AnyTimeTraveler »

bobim wrote: post #90

True that compared to FoxDot, Sardine or Tidal, the syntax and visualization are just making the whole thing a real pleasure to use. But this is way too taxing for my linux boxes that are ending stuttering quite badly sometimes. Are you all using macs or something?

Weird. My android phone is 3+ years old and was not a flagship when I got it. It had a little problem with stuttering on more complex examples. It sounded like it was running out of things that can play at the same time, but scrolling was still smooth. It didn't feel like it was pinning my phone's cpu. On my laptop, it didn't break a sweat with firefox and pipewire. Are you sure it's not a config issue?
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