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The realities of being a pop star

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Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by sfblah »

nprateem wrote: post #88
sfblah wrote: post #40

I had to go on Youtube to listen to some of the music mentioned here, as I'm pretty out of the loop on it. Given what I heard I honestly think we're basically at the point where AI can generate equivalent or even better music. It's just very simple and doesn't feel particularly innovative or noteworthy. Point being, I think it's likely this person is one of the last pop stars. Actually, as I'm writing this, I realize…

Maybe you could tell all her fans how stupid they are and shouldn't enjoy her music. Why not save them from themselves with some of your approved recommendations?

With pleasure!

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by steve1977 »

bigiain wrote: post #73
SL61 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting to observe that fame (and the money that usually comes with it) seems to follow something like a log scale. People usually don't become gradually more famous in a linear way. They're more likely to spend a few years with 50k listeners and then get a big hit and get 1 million listeners overnight, then the next big jump is 20 million, and so on. It's possible to be semi-famous and still able to go to t…

It's fascinating to me that her new album's name is "Wuthering Heights", the name of Kate Bush's debut and number 1 single from 1978. Kate Bush is well known (in the circles of people who know about this sort of thing) and as fiercely independent and self-controlled artist. I hope Charlii manages her career and fame as well as Kate has over the decades.

As I understand, Charli’s album is the soundtrack to a movie called Wuthering Heights. Which is loosely based on the 19th century novel of the same name. And that novel was also the inspiration for the Kate Bush song.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by renewiltord »

jspash wrote: post #28
varjag wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah there's a 'delve' there but it almost feels it was put in as a taunt.

I never quite understood this “tell”. I use the word all the time. As do a lot of the people I have know. Written and spoken. Is this maybe an American thing? Ie it’s just not used much there?

I used to wear a mask when I was sick but still had to be around people. It was just normal life. Then after COVID it became a political statement. Now if I did that people would assume I’m trying to say something.

I’ve always liked the American flag. I have a little pin on my jacket. People assume something by its presence.

That’s life. Delve is now an LLMism.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by nemothekid »

varjag wrote: post #3
carabiner wrote: post #2

Fascinating. Also impressive rawness, and it doesn't even seem like she passed it thru Chatgpt. It's insane that my first inclination is to detect those telltale signs in a blog post, and here I found none.

Yeah there's a 'delve' there but it almost feels it was put in as a taunt.

Charli is a half-british half-Indian. It could be legitimate

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by thaumasiotes »

Insanity wrote: post #84
decasia wrote: post #6

I thought this was a really good piece of writing. It’s rare to do something like this because the job discourages it by putting PR filters on everything you say. My uncle was a pretty big pop star in the 1960s. His group at one point had a big fanzine, they were household names across the country, over time they had stalkers and weird fans and all that, made movies and albums, had big parties and knew other famous p…

It was interesting and a fun read, but not a “good piece of writing” in my opinion. Apart from some spelling mistakes, the sentences droned on and it read more like a semi-coherent rant than a thoughtful piece on “being a pop star”.

The sentences do drone on, but they're fully coherent; this is above-average writing. It wouldn't likely meet publishing standards, but it's a lot better than you'd expect a randomly-chosen person to produce.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by carabiner »

stavros wrote: post #25
carabiner wrote: post #2

Fascinating. Also impressive rawness, and it doesn't even seem like she passed it thru Chatgpt. It's insane that my first inclination is to detect those telltale signs in a blog post, and here I found none.

Nobody who likes writing would use ChatGPT to write. First of all, it takes the fun out of it, and second of all, its writing is clinical and corporate. I'm writing to express myself, how would I accomplish that through someone else? I don't think trying to detect ChatGPT is a good use of time. Either the writing is good, or it's not.

It doesn't take any more time than reading it. Chatgpt writing is dogshit and if I see signs then I know probably the whole work is polluted.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by thaumasiotes »

joshcsimmons wrote: post #60

It is correct to be skeptical of people who parlay their fame in one domain into another. The most powerful man in the US right now is just a reality TV star. At best, it allows "celebrities" to hop into any domain of their choosing without any real qualification or having earned their way in that particular field.

> The most powerful man in the US right now is just a reality TV star.

That's a strange characterization; he was famous across the country before there was even a concept of "reality TV".

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by thaumasiotes »

Insanity wrote: post #86
jameslk wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Charli XCX is diverse and experimental enough that my first instinct would be to assume she’s rather intelligent. For example, her collaboration in the PC Music scene comes off rather nerdy and eccentric actually, not exactly pop. And her lyrics usually have more to it than meets the ear, e.g. sometimes intentionally being a commentary on the party persona keeping her distracted from worse things. “I hate the silence…

Does she write her own lyrics? Or does someone else write those for her? I’m not saying she is or isn’t intelligent, and either way she clearly is talented in some area of music, just wondering if she is a singer or singer/songwriter :)

>> And her lyrics usually have more to it than meets the ear

> Does she write her own lyrics? Or does someone else write those for her?

Even when a singer is performing a song they didn't write, they're often doing that because the song appeals to them.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by squigz »

IshKebab wrote: post #22

> I find that this is often where the stupidity narrative can be born. I’ve always wondered why someone else’s success triggers such rage and anger in certain people and I think it probably all boils down to the fact that the patriarchal society we unfortunately live in has successfully brainwashed us all. We are still trained to hate women, to hate ourselves and to be angry at women if they step out of the neat litt…

> Yes he's an arsehole and moderately racist and probably quite lucky too but he is good at his job.

So one can be a massive piece of shit as long as they're good at their job?

Many of us here probably have worked with people like that. It's not a good environment to work in.

Re: The realities of being a pop star

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Post by squigz »

bdangubic wrote: post #64
joshcsimmons wrote: post #60

It is correct to be skeptical of people who parlay their fame in one domain into another. The most powerful man in the US right now is just a reality TV star. At best, it allows "celebrities" to hop into any domain of their choosing without any real qualification or having earned their way in that particular field.

what qualification does one need to be US President (besides being born in the US and of certain age)? celebrities certainly won’t be doing any open heart surgeries anytime soon :) so there are things you absolutely do not need any qualitications for (Actor/Actress, US President) and there those you do (Surgeon, Attorney…)

The idea that you shouldn't need qualifications - which, might I add, is not the same as certification - to be the President of The United States is a wild one.
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