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Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by [deleted] »

shoddydoordesk wrote: post #49
stefan_ wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean in most other places people have simply realized that unless there is an immediate risk to life, the only thing high speed police chases do is create that very risk . Nicely contrasts with all the news about the omnipresent license plate scanners - it's just pointless, don't take the risk, arrest them at your leisure.

So your proposal is to just let the criminals run away? And that somehow won't embolden them further? "Once this baby hits 88mph, we're home free!" Air support is used to coordinate with law enforcement up ahead to deploy spikes to end the chase. You are just repeating empty political talking points that simply don't work in the real world.

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Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by dudeinjapan »

shoddydoordesk wrote: post #27
BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #21

I find it interesting that the question is "why don't they use drones". My question is: why so much air surveillance? I live in Germany. The only times I hear a helicopter is if someone is being rescued or if someones missing. I rarely see them at all.

There are high speed police chases (100mph+) in Los Angeles — no exaggeration — on an almost daily basis. Air support is the primary defense tool for law enforcement. It's so bad that the local TV stations have their own choppers and a dedicated on-screen UI tailored for the chases with GPS-based tracking and speed. If you're lucky you can catch one of the many YouTube live streams. Here's one from....two days ago: h…

This YouTube video is missing a Kavinsky soundtrack.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by throwaway48476 »

BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #21

I find it interesting that the question is "why don't they use drones". My question is: why so much air surveillance? I live in Germany. The only times I hear a helicopter is if someone is being rescued or if someones missing. I rarely see them at all.

Don't give them ideas.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by Nextgrid »

potato3732842 wrote: post #82
BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #21

I find it interesting that the question is "why don't they use drones". My question is: why so much air surveillance? I live in Germany. The only times I hear a helicopter is if someone is being rescued or if someones missing. I rarely see them at all.

It's not about results per dollar. It's about sending a message.

The police state needs to enforce its dominance.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

#95

Post by sokoloff »

asdff wrote: post #76
sokoloff wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The person “forc[ing] it to go 100mph” is in the car being chased.

Chased by what? It isn't a lion they are running from. It is a police interceptor egging them on to go 100mph.

I think they’re overwhelmingly being chased by a police vehicle after a lawful request to pull over and stop.

The fleeing driver is choosing to turn that lawful stop into felony fleeing/eluding if they choose to attempt to flee at triple digits.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by netsharc »

shoddydoordesk wrote: post #73
mapt wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically, letting them run away and then setting up a raid at their house the next morning is safer for everyone. If you can follow them from altitude well enough to do that, you reduce risk dramatically relative to either interception or chase. > They could learn a few things from the Georgia State Patrol, the undisputed world champions of the PIT. Why not just open up on them with antitank weaponry? PIT maneuvers…

Buddy, most of these are stolen cars. Do you think they are driving them home and parking it in the driveway? If you are eluding the cops at 100mph you are a danger to the public, they are not going to let you go home. >Why not just open up on them with antitank weaponry? I've heard cops say something similar on body cam footage.

If they're eluding cops at 100mph and being a danger to the public, it's because they're being chased by cops...

But well, it's America, having the risk of a stray cop bullet hitting you because just like car chases, shootous are inevitable, makes it safer!

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by phantasmish »

sokoloff wrote: post #95
asdff wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chased by what? It isn't a lion they are running from. It is a police interceptor egging them on to go 100mph.

I think they’re overwhelmingly being chased by a police vehicle after a lawful request to pull over and stop. The fleeing driver is choosing to turn that lawful stop into felony fleeing/eluding if they choose to attempt to flee at triple digits.

This is very much an “it takes two to tango” situation.

Without both of:

- A driver willing to flee the cops.

- A cop willing to chase at dangerous speeds

The high-speed chase doesn’t happen. Both make it happen.

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by stefan_ »

TravisLS wrote: post #48
stefan_ wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean in most other places people have simply realized that unless there is an immediate risk to life, the only thing high speed police chases do is create that very risk . Nicely contrasts with all the news about the omnipresent license plate scanners - it's just pointless, don't take the risk, arrest them at your leisure.

Worth noting that many people who run from the police also have fake or stolen plates.

I don't get this gotcha. The license plate scanner associates a plate with a location and time, it doesn't care for who drives it. In a chase, you know the plate, you don't know the location. Seems perfect?

Re: LAPD helicopter tracker with real-time operating costs

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Post by [deleted] »

shoddydoordesk wrote: post #73
mapt wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Basically, letting them run away and then setting up a raid at their house the next morning is safer for everyone. If you can follow them from altitude well enough to do that, you reduce risk dramatically relative to either interception or chase. > They could learn a few things from the Georgia State Patrol, the undisputed world champions of the PIT. Why not just open up on them with antitank weaponry? PIT maneuvers…

Buddy, most of these are stolen cars. Do you think they are driving them home and parking it in the driveway? If you are eluding the cops at 100mph you are a danger to the public, they are not going to let you go home. >Why not just open up on them with antitank weaponry? I've heard cops say something similar on body cam footage.

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