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Re: Maybe you’re not trying

#91
> But the feeling of effort doesn’t mean that you’re Actually Trying.

That's why I go out of my way to dunk on people who treat “try things” and “hard work” as useful advice. What you work hard on matters. If they wanted respect, they ought to have had the honesty to admit they do not have specific advice for you (or lack the time to help).

Re: Maybe you’re not trying

#93

I've always noticed that when I'm giving advice to someone or trying to help out, it always feels their problem is easier than whatever problem I have. As someone with some anxiety around things like calling some company to get something done or asking a random stranger for some help in a store, I would gladly do it if it was to help someone else (family member or friend). But when it's for me I find it harder. I won…

I'm exactly the same, down to the specific examples you chose.

So, what is to be done?

Re: Maybe you’re not trying

#94

I've always noticed that when I'm giving advice to someone or trying to help out, it always feels their problem is easier than whatever problem I have. As someone with some anxiety around things like calling some company to get something done or asking a random stranger for some help in a store, I would gladly do it if it was to help someone else (family member or friend). But when it's for me I find it harder. I won…

People in the ADHD community are outspoken about a tangential concept: cleaning. Cleaning your friends place is a fun, novel, non-emotional activity. Cleaning your own space is a mental slog, boring and often painful due to having to rid yourself of mementos. In that case, my theory is that you get to shed your learned helplessness about how things look. I suspect it’s similar with giving advice.

This is ozempic territory: a technical solution to your own shortcomings is most effective.

I have solved all my issues with doing house chores with wireless headphones, tablet, and youtube @ 2x speed. Sure, it means that I can't load my dishwasher until I find something half-decent to listen/watch but once I do find it, I have 10-50 minutes of just pure closing. Dishwasher loaded, countertops empty, new load of laundry, dry clothes in the closet, gym bag packed, trash taken out. Frankly, kinda enjoy it now.

Re: Maybe you’re not trying

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > I learned his real name and used it to track down an old friend of his to ask for help You left out the adverbial phrase. The whole sentence is > When he reached out to my company six months later to apply for a job, I learned his real name and used it to track down an old friend of his to ask for help — but the friend told me he was afraid to intervene because he didn’t want to become a target himself. When the…

I think the old friend is _her_ old friend, not the stalker's. The sentence is a bit ambiguous but that's what seems to make the most sense to me.

"old friend of HIS" is not ambiguous.

Re: Maybe you’re not trying

#96
post #55

Great post! I find that this happens when I want to do something The Right Way, but don’t have a clear path, nor the energy to figure one out. For example I want a nice winter wardrobe, but first I have to figure out what I like, what is trendy, where to buy it, what will suit the weather. I am wholly unprepared for it. Suddenly it’s a whole ordeal, so I just wait. In another category - art - I had to learn to be oka…

> Each attempt teaches you something, so to make good art, you have to make a lot of bad art first. Paper is cheap and making bad art is fun once you move past perfectionism.

For the same reason, if it weren't for digital cameras, I never would have taken enough pictures to become competent enough to enjoy photography.

I am also all ears about anyone chiming in with an effective way to deal with shopping problems. Sometimes, I've found that what it takes is Gemini to restate what I already knew to be the conclusion but without my mental processing of trying to falsify it (Gemini, unlike real humans, doesn’t get overloaded and shut down when I ask rapid-fire advice questions).

Re: Maybe you’re not trying

#97

I've always noticed that when I'm giving advice to someone or trying to help out, it always feels their problem is easier than whatever problem I have. As someone with some anxiety around things like calling some company to get something done or asking a random stranger for some help in a store, I would gladly do it if it was to help someone else (family member or friend). But when it's for me I find it harder. I won…

People in the ADHD community are outspoken about a tangential concept: cleaning. Cleaning your friends place is a fun, novel, non-emotional activity. Cleaning your own space is a mental slog, boring and often painful due to having to rid yourself of mementos. In that case, my theory is that you get to shed your learned helplessness about how things look. I suspect it’s similar with giving advice.

A line I always remember (from Babylon 5) is: "When I clean my place, all I've done is clean my place. But when I help you clean your place, I'm _helping you_."

tl;dr you should ask your badass partner for strategic help when the entire galaxy is under threat, even if she seems busy.

Re: Maybe you’re not trying

#98
post #73
post #17

I think the "maybe you're not actually trying" framing is not very constructive. The author did try, making decisions and taking actions that seemed appropriate for her situation at the time. The problem was that because her attempts to solve the problem failed -- again and again and again -- she stopped trying. Which is a not-entirely-unreasonable thing to do. I would frame it more like: just because you have tried…

The other side of that is that sometimes you just can't win, no matter what. You may end up wasting your life trying and trying anyway. Recognizing when to stop trying is just as important, I think.

> You may end up wasting your life trying and trying anyway.

It's like the fly who keeps buzzing at the window pane instead of giving up to fall six inches to the open windowsill.

Re: Maybe you’re not trying

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > I learned his real name and used it to track down an old friend of his to ask for help You left out the adverbial phrase. The whole sentence is > When he reached out to my company six months later to apply for a job, I learned his real name and used it to track down an old friend of his to ask for help — but the friend told me he was afraid to intervene because he didn’t want to become a target himself. When the…

I think the old friend is _her_ old friend, not the stalker's. The sentence is a bit ambiguous but that's what seems to make the most sense to me.

It clearly says "an old friend of his"

Re: Maybe you’re not trying

#100

If you, the reader, are having "productivity problems" please get assessed for ADHD. A lot of productivity writing has the frame "trust me, I was incorrigible and this system worked for me. If it worked for me it will work for you." None of those systems ever worked for me. I worried about learned helplessness. I worried that imposter syndrome was actually just me being an imposter. I worried I wasn't trying hard eno…

How long have you been on your medication?
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