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Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#91

It doesn't matter how fast you are moving if you are going in the wrong direction. Nonetheless, these are good points.

Well, if you learn something along the way that teaches you what the right direction is, then you still made progress.

Unless you wasted years by going in the wrong direction which could have been avoided by a week of serious thinking and planning... (Or even a year. Some mistakes are extremely costly.)

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You pay a doctor for a consultation. saying you paid the doctor for medical school and for the legacy of doctors that came before him is.... wrong.

It's not wrong, that's exactly what I'm paying them for. If they didn't have the education then they wouldn't be a doctor, and I wouldn't be seeing them for a consultation. I'm well compensated not because I'm good at googling things, but because I have a proven track record of being good at googling things. If a junior was able to produce the same results they wouldnt be paid more.

Who's paying to school them at googling? Certainly not you...

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#94

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Yeah sure. The tricky part is if you even know which action to take. To actually do that you need to research enough, conceptualize the end goal and envison a rough but workable plan.

Most people don't and blindly stumble going after short term to mid term reward. Then later life crashes them hard, except for the lucky few.

And the truth is, now some people have many more luck coupons to spend than others.

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#95

Right but I see this taken too far. Getting side eyed for creating a Jira ticket not doing it now. Dude, I am creating a Jira ticket because I have 100 things to do and need to actual priorise this! If I do stuff in the order of serendipity I will definitely be inefficient.

I am creating a jira ticket because I will forget I have done the thing. I am also creating a jira ticket because 11 months later when another engineer is trying to figure out if the code they're staring at is still actually valuable or if they can rip it out safely, they are going to use git blame to find the pull request where the thing was done, that pull request is going to mention the jira ticket, and the jira t…

It's called documentation. Somehow people forget to include a non-external service dependent version with their code these days.

Probably because "nobody is paid for doing that".

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#96
post #54

I see lots of comments focusing on cases where there is necessary research still to do. Which I think misses the point - which is there are times when you’ve already done enough research, but you’re afraid to act so you procrastinate. i.e. not doing the thing.

If you haven't started doing the thing while researching it, you're doing archeology or historiography, not research. (Different scientific fields. Research requires experiment.)

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#97
post #31

In the Viable System Model[0], "doing the thing" is System 1. Yes of course you need System 1 or the thing won't get done. But in any viable system, you also have the "meta-systems", Systems 2-5: - System 2: coordination between multiple Systems 1 (which includes prioritization, communication, and exceptional conditions) - System 3: resource allocation and process development - System 4: strategy and risk management…

Certainly, but don't get confused: You are not doing the thing, until you do the thing. There are many ways to do the thing. There are many more ways to not do the thing.

Oh you are absolutely doing the thing in this situation, as in you're in the process of doing it, somewhere between 1% and 99% of the way there depending on the context. You haven't done the thing until you actually fully do the thing, it is true. But most of the work could be in this preparatory meta work, and of course it means nothing without the final all important step of doing the thing, but there you have it, doing the thing before having fully done the thing.

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#98
Granted the humorous intent, it's a reductionist outlook. If we were to embrace the premise, then life would be about spawning replacements, or, as is sometimes said, "A chicken is an egg's way to make another egg."

When expressed that way, I must differ. Reproduction per se is the least interesting part of human life. Talking about reproduction is much more interesting ... wait, I think that's called "literature."

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#99
post #66

I'm trying to do the thing, but the thing is horribly documented and doesn't work. And nobody seems to know why. So am I still doing the thing if the thing isn't doing its thing?

Then the thing becomes : Understand how to do the thing Do the thing Write down fresh documentation about the thing

1st line: >Preparing to do the thing isn't doing the thing.

Re: Things that aren't doing the thing

#100
post #31

In the Viable System Model[0], "doing the thing" is System 1. Yes of course you need System 1 or the thing won't get done. But in any viable system, you also have the "meta-systems", Systems 2-5: - System 2: coordination between multiple Systems 1 (which includes prioritization, communication, and exceptional conditions) - System 3: resource allocation and process development - System 4: strategy and risk management…

Thing is, you have to start doing the thing to figure out what things you need to do the thing.
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