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European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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Re: European Commission plans “digital omnibus” package to simplify its tech laws

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And as an EU citizen I like that they do. After all this is what they are for.

interesting. sounds like the EU is getting the growth trajectory its voters desire, then - best of luck!

Have you expected otherwise? What does the commoner gain from having there PII in the hands of large surveillance companies? In my expectation people that are not oblivious to that issue and don't have stake in such a company would be for such a regulation.

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It's really stupid that people imagine that the GDPR would hold back European AI. Seeing as the Americans firms have in fact rolled out their systems, it's unlikely to be a legal problem withe GDPR. Maybe copyright is a problem.That would have been a solved problem if that regulation requiring people to list their training data had been applied fully. This won't make any difference for AI and will reduce EU cohesion,…

Shared European value is a ridiculous concept go outside and you will see people share almost nothing in common. It's ridiculous to pretend all people in europe agree on this matter, but nobody outside europe doing it.

But we do in fact have this as a shared value. I'm sure there are people outside it whole like it too, sort of like how there are people outside Sweden who like freedom-to-roam, but when you actually have something it becomes part of your expectations and your culture; and I think this belief in limits on internet surveillance, tracking, etc. has in fact become such a thing.

When you don't have something most people accept not having it and it becomes normal not to have it, and I think that's the case with privacy in the US and outside the EU in general.

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Is it not? What is it instead? Carbon negative?

Greenpeace was founded to oppose nuclear energy, because it would lead to nuclear war (that was their position at least), which illustrates that, even now, nuclear power is considered not-green.

Being "green" is like being "organic" compared to being carbon-neutral which is something you can just calculate.

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> Giant GDP boosts are always just one deregulation away, hm? Honestly, reducing the complexity of incorporating and paying taxes in Germany would quickly improve the dire situation of startups here. It's so bad right now that a tax advisor straight up told me to move to a less business-hostile country.

They should just copy Polish laws. They are far from perfect, and yet they provided Poland with almost 30 years of stable, few percent growth, regardless of global and European economic struggles. When you plot the chart of Polish GDP even such a significant event as entering EU doesn't even register in the shape of the growth.

True, I was considering going back to Poland for business... if only Poland was more politically stable.

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> I don't want EU to fall behind further in the AI race Unless something changes, that's going to continue :( According to Jensen Huang, "the AI race" will be determined primarily by the price of electricity.[0] Until very recently the EU stated that being carbon neutral by 2050 was of overriding importance[1]. Which is it? [0] https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell... [1] https://climate.ec.eur…

Nuclear energy is carbon neutral according to the EU definition

Germany turned down all of its nuclear plants and is actively demolishing them. Good luck with that.

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>> Until very recently the EU stated that being carbon neutral by 2050 was of overriding importance[1]. I'm ok with that. Not every continent/country/economic bloc has to have the same goals. Competing with the US or China in the 'AI race' is a race you're probably going to lose anyway. And it's going to make fuck all difference to the vast majority of the population anyway. Healthcare, education, life/work balance.…

>Healthcare, education, life/work balance. All much more important and don't require competing in the 'AI race'. Neither of which will improve by us being "carbon neutral".

Europe not being dependent on foreign oil is a worthy goal as well, it's not the US whcih could supply it's oil use domestically.

A lot of green infrastructure is also expensive upfront, but cheaper over the full lifespan. It's the kind of investment I like to see goverment making.

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I like the EU, but what's annoying about things like this, or the Chat Control law that keeps getting pushed, is that civil society and privacy advocacy groups always need to stay vigilant and keep mobilizing people. It's an attrition game. I wonder what harm companies are even claiming. But honestly makes perfect sense that Germany's current conservative government is in favor of it. Giant GDP boosts are always just…

> Giant GDP boosts are always just one deregulation away, hm? Honestly, reducing the complexity of incorporating and paying taxes in Germany would quickly improve the dire situation of startups here. It's so bad right now that a tax advisor straight up told me to move to a less business-hostile country.

Totally agree!! But you never see anything remotely close to proposals like that from the people claiming they want less bureaucracy.

When they say less bureaucracy / deregulation, they just talk about tax cuts, less consumer protections and at worst artificially boosting large companies that are not innovating.

What is desperately needed is making the system less cumbersome and convoluted

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It's a tricky balance to strike. I don't want EU to fall behind further in the AI race, and I do want them to be more competitive in the tech landscape. At the moment, EU really isn't competitive in tech (and neither in tech salaries) and it leads to a certain amount of 'brain drain' as people move abroad. So while I do understand the need for regulations, they shouldn't regulate themselves into irrelevance. I don't…

>I don't want EU to fall behind further in the AI race Buddy, EU didn’t even sign up for the race

Well there is Mistral.

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Unfortunately the downfall of the EU will not be easy or quick.

Don't underestimate the ability of humans to make a right mess of things in short order. Often, these elaborate systems of government, finance, and/or corporation often falls very slowly and then suddenly all at once.

It's not a given by any means, nor do I wish downfall of the EU or it's member states for the record, but things are rarely as stable or persistent as they seem, especially when subjected to the novel and/or unforseen.

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> I don't want EU to fall behind further in the AI race Unless something changes, that's going to continue :( According to Jensen Huang, "the AI race" will be determined primarily by the price of electricity.[0] Until very recently the EU stated that being carbon neutral by 2050 was of overriding importance[1]. Which is it? [0] https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intell... [1] https://climate.ec.eur…

Keeping the planet habitable, or making line go up? Truly a difficult choice... More seriously: what is the benefit for the citizens of Europe to chase trends? AI is shaping up to be a bubble. Even if "market remains irrational longer than you stay solvent", what is the purpose? Clean air, clean water, all that has value. Line going up, what does it give me?

Exactly. Also, whatever those AI leaders invent, two months later the whole world has it.

I mean when GPT 3.5 came out it seemed amazing, but requiring a 8x Nvidia N100 or whatever guaranteed that id never have it at home. A year or so later llama 3.1 accomplished similar results on pc at home. It's a race but the winners are only slightly ahead and wasting a lot of money doing it.

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