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Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

#91

I might just be tired, but this seems highly repetitive. The author mentions friends in the field and concierge doctors multiple times in as much as I read. Feels like the whole thing could be shortened to just say "here's the tests you run, the drugs you might take, the lifestyle changes you should consider".

It’s also demonizing doctors and the healthcare system a bit too much for my liking.

I’m located in Europe, so I may have a slightly different view, but my doctors clearly care and discuss with me about prevention, risks, tradeoffs, …

They praise the methods of the „good“ doctors and stamps the others as driven by financial gain. Who says the expensive ones are any better in this regard? Who says they are more or less exaggerating the importance of test results to make you come back?

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

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Long story short care about your health. If you don't do already, maybe now is a good time to start. What you put into your body: no processed food, cook yourself, lots of variety of veggies and fruits, little meat, little alcohol. What you do with your body: regular exercise, low stress, enough sleep. What you do with your mind: good social environment, good relationships. And an apple a day keeps the doctor away!

Not all things labeled "processed foods" are bad, it seems. There are enough scientists that say the distinction is often hypocritical (example from an article: a factory-made carrot cake is labeled UPF, but a home-baked one isn't, even though they're practically the same thing). Sugar, fats, and lack of fiber make factory-food unhealthy, they say. Others add that we can't feed the growing metropolitan areas without…

WRT the carrot cake, I will say that while there is only a minimal physical difference, there is a practical difference. Making a carrot cake at home is a commitment, and most people won't frequently go to the trouble except on special occasions... But one from the grocery store can be acquired casually and without effort, and it's easy to eat a lot more of something when it requires no effort.

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

#93
Stop drinking. Replace cheese and butter with olive oil in copious amounts. Only eat fish meats. Don’t smoke or vape. Eat salads and other prebiotics. Get some cardio - even walking your dog is great. Your brain fog will lift, your skin will clear, your mood will improve and your doctor will gasp at how clear your carotids are next time they’re ultrasounded.

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

#94
There are some points on this post that confuse me.

> In early 2023 during a routine skin check at my dermatologist [...]

Are routine skin checks a thing?

> [...] I’ve spoken with several of the world’s leading cardiologists and lipidologists [...]

How come?

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

#95
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Very interesting, but do the numerous mentions of taking action in your 20s, 30s and 40s mean it's too late for someone in their 50s? Nitpick: he mentions LDL-C but the test results don't mention that at all. Only later do I see that is "LDL Cholesterol".

In general, when science is done, recruitment requirements force the experimenters to bucket the participants. One thing that often happens is an open bucket, say 35+.

The resulting science is then reported as “When you cross 35, your chances of being pregnant immediately drop” or “The brain stops developing at 18” and so on.

Almost nothing in the body is really like this, though. You can quit smoking later in life and it will help. You can eat better later and it will help. You can exercise and it will help. Very few things are “the damage is done”.

The only constraints are that the later you start the more risks you face. E.g. if you first deadlift in your 50s and you decide to follow Starting Strength you’re going to have trouble.

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

#96

I am not a statin skeptic--or rather, I don't want to be a statin skeptic. I've done the research and it makes sense to me, but I still feel some social and psychological pressures to reject statins. When I see that it is widely accepted that ApoB is better to measure than LDL-C, but the industry continues to measure LDL-C, but not ApoB, I wonder why. It makes me skeptical. When I see that the purpose of statins is t…

I ALSO want to not be a statin-skeptic but, like you, these things look very weird to me. The most prescribed drugs in the country and we don't even try to check if they are addressing the actual problem?

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

#97
Going deep on biomarkers, blood tests, and debates about optimal levels is okay for some people who derive motivation from obsessing over topics, but I’m starting to notice a trend where people obsess about these things for a couple years before burning out and moving on to the next topic.

The best thing you can do for yourself is to establish healthy diet and lifestyle habits that are sustainable. A lot of people who jump from obsession to obsession do a great job at optimizing for something for a few years, but when their life changes they drop it completely and fall back to forgetting about it.

Fad diets are the original example of this: They work while the person is doing it, but they’re hard to maintain for years or decades. CrossFit and other exercise trends have the same problem where some people get extremely excited about fitness for a couple years before falling off completely because it’s unsustainable for them. Some people are able to continue these things for decades, but most people do it for a short while and then stop.

I’m now seeing the same pattern with biomarker obsessives: They go a few years obsessing over charts and trying things for a few months at time, but when the interest subsides or they get busy with life most of it disappears.

The most successful people over a lifetime are those who establish healthy habits that are easy to sustain: Eating well enough, reducing bad habits like frequent alcohol or fast food consumption, some light physical activity every day, and other common sense things.

The most important factor is making it something easy to comply with. The $300 biomarker panels are interesting, but most people don’t want to pay $300 every year or more to get snapshots that depend largely on what they did the past week. Some people even get into self-deceiving habits where they eat well for a week before their blood tests because the blood test itself has become the game.

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

#99
There's something I deeply don't understand about this.

> I shared these results with a leading lipidologist who proclaimed: “Not sure if the lab or the primary care doc said an LDL-C of 116 mg/dL was fine but that concentration is the 50th percentile population cut point in the MESA study and should never ever be considered as normal.

> It’s also important to note that, according to a lipidologist friend, an ApoB of 96 is at a totally unacceptable 50th percentile population cutpoint from Framingham Offspring Study.

So... the exact median value is "totally unacceptable" and "should never ever be considered as normal"? I'm open to the possibility that the US population is so deeply unhealthy that this is true, but then that needs to be argued for or at least mentioned. Like, you can't say "you're exactly average in this respect" and expect your and that's terrible to be taken seriously without any followup.

Or if I'm misunderstanding what's meant by "50th percentile population cut point" then again, I think this jargon should be explained, as it's plainly not the usual meaning of "50th percentile".

Re: Ticker: Don't die of heart disease

#100
The "be an advocate" thing is both true but also incredibly selfish and egotistical.

If everyone did that, the whole system would grind to a halt. Doctors aren't in a rush because they enjoy so, they are because they're already overworked. 1 out of every 25 patients (their family) demanding extra attention is possible although still a burden. 21 out of every 25 is not possible.

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