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Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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I've said it before but no one takes it seriously: LLMs are only useful if you're building something that's already in the training set ie already commodity . In which case why are you building it ???

"LLMs are only useful..." Is likely why no one takes you seriously, as it's a good indication you don't have much experience with them.

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Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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I just asked glm-4.6 how to setup a z.ai api key with claude code and it kept on saying it has no idea what claude code is... Quite funny, actually.

Ask and you shall receive! https://docs.z.ai/devpack/tool/claude tldr "env": { "ANTHROPIC_AUTH_TOKEN": "your_zai_api_key", "ANTHROPIC_BASE_URL": "https://api.z.ai/api/anthropic" } Although if you want an Actually Good Experience I recommend using Claude Code Router https://github.com/musistudio/claude-code-router because it allows you to intercept the requests and forward them to other models. (e.g. GLM doesn't seem…

Does this allow me to use Claude Code as the orchestration harness with GLM 4.6 as the LLM along with other LLMs? Seems so based on your description, thanks for the link.

Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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The industry of "software" is so large... While I agree with web development going this route, I'm not sure about "everything else". You could argue that that's the bulk of all software jobs in tech, and you'd likely be correct... But depending on what your actual challenge is, LLM assistance is more of a hindrance then help. However creating a web platform without external constraints makes LLM assistance shine, tha…

Well, there are certainly kinds of code LLMs would struggle with, but people generally underestimate what LLMs are capable of. E.g. Victor Taelin is implementing ultra-advanced programming language/runtime writing almost all code using LLM now. Runtime (HVM) is based on Interaction Calculus model which was only an obscure academic curiosity until Taelin started working on it. So a hypothesis that LLMs are only capabl…

I’ve also experimented with using rust to create a new programming language where I vibe coded (eg never wrote myself). My opinion is that it’s quite capable with disciplined management.

https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/aether

Note: the syntax is ugly as a trade-off to make it explicit and unambiguous for LLMs to use.

Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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I used their $50 plan and with the previously offered Qwen3 coder 480B. While fast - none of the “supported” tools I tried were able to use it in a way that didn’t hit the per minute request limit in a few seconds. It was incredibly frustrating. For the record, I tried OpenCoder, VSCode, Quen Coder CLI, octofriend and a few others I don’t remember. Fast forward to now, when GLM 4.6 has replaced Qwen3 coder in their s…

I run opencode with cerebras and it goes on and on. No issues so far. It is not a codex or claude code but its fast that it allows for a much more interactive experience. Our results with Claude Code and Codex are much better quality but when, let's use the term vibing, opencode wirh cerebras is more fun.

Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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It just depends on what you are doing. A green field react app in typescript with a CRUD API behind? The LLMs are a mind blowing assistant and 1000t/s is crazy. You are doing embedded development or anything else not as mainstream as web dev? LLMs are still useful but no longer mind blowing and often produce hallucinations. You need to read every line of their output. 1000t/s is crazy but no longer always in a good w…

I've said it before but no one takes it seriously: LLMs are only useful if you're building something that's already in the training set ie already commodity . In which case why are you building it ???

Historically big AI skeptic here: what you say is very not true now. LLMs aren't just regurgitating their training data per se. I've used LLMs on languages the LLM has not seen, and it performed well. I've used LLMs on code that is about as far from a React todo app as it's possible to get.

Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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I used their $50 plan and with the previously offered Qwen3 coder 480B. While fast - none of the “supported” tools I tried were able to use it in a way that didn’t hit the per minute request limit in a few seconds. It was incredibly frustrating. For the record, I tried OpenCoder, VSCode, Quen Coder CLI, octofriend and a few others I don’t remember. Fast forward to now, when GLM 4.6 has replaced Qwen3 coder in their s…

Have you tried Z.ai’s official coding plan? Any differences in performance?

Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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This is where Rust's "if it compiles, it's probably correct" philosophy may come in handy. "Shifting bugs left" is even more important for LLMs than it is for humans. There are certain tests LLMs can't run, so if we can detect bugs at compile time and run the LLM in a loop until things compile, that's a significant benefit.

My recent experience is that llms are dogshit at rust, though, unable to correct bugs without inserting new ones, going back and forth fixing and breaking the same thing, etc.

A while ago I gathered every HN comment going back a year that contains Rust and LLM and about half are positive and half are negative.

Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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It just depends on what you are doing. A green field react app in typescript with a CRUD API behind? The LLMs are a mind blowing assistant and 1000t/s is crazy. You are doing embedded development or anything else not as mainstream as web dev? LLMs are still useful but no longer mind blowing and often produce hallucinations. You need to read every line of their output. 1000t/s is crazy but no longer always in a good w…

I've said it before but no one takes it seriously: LLMs are only useful if you're building something that's already in the training set ie already commodity . In which case why are you building it ???

Bell Labs should have fired all their toilet cleaners. Nothing innovative about a toilet.

Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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I feel the same and it's also why I can't understand all these people using small local models. Every local model I've used and even most open source are just not good

GLM-4.6 is on par with Sonnet 4.5. Sometimes it is better, sometimes it is worse. Give it a shot. It's the only model that made me (almost) ditch Claude. The only problem is, Claude Code is still the best agentic program in town and search doesn't function without a proper subscription.

Have you tried opencode?

Re: Cerebras Code now supports GLM 4.6 at 1000 tokens/sec

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I'm curious to know what the cost is to switch contexts. Pure performance is amazing, but how long does it take to get a system going, to load the model and build context? What systems cans witch contexts while keeping the model non-destructively vs when is executing destructive?

I have a lot of questions about how models are run at scale; so curious to know more. With such a massive wafer as chip as Cerebras, it feels like perhaps switching might be even more consuming. Or maybe there's some brilliant strategy to have multiple contexts all loaded that it can flip between! Inventorying & using so much ram so spread out is it's own challenge!

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