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Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by hunterpayne »

ashtonshears wrote: post #12
carodgers wrote: post #4

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Weird take; Mark is literally a ruler, and the people are defending against his right to enforce his own rules??

I think when people think of the other side, they think of HOA's and their petty rules. So its how people feel about HOAs vs how people feel about the CEO of a social media company.

Now, the article claims MZ didn't file the proper permits. But this reads like a hit piece so take those claims about someone with a raft of lawyers not filing the proper permits with a grain of salt. What this isn't is some sort of political dispute that effects any of the rest of us. Its sort of rich people using PR as leverage in a dispute with someone who is really really rich. Nothing to see here, move along...

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by randycupertino »

somethingsome wrote: post #70

As a non US resident, I don't really get it. Can someone explain why is it such a crime to run a school? (illegal maybe, but I guess the purpose is still to teach to young people). Shouldn't we promote the creation of schools?

It's more that he moved into a dense residential neighborhood of single family homes and started buying up all the neighboring houses (11 so far, and he's offered on even more!) to create a massive walled off compound for himself, on which he then opened a private school for his family and his friend's kids. If he wanted to build some billionaire private compound why not go do that somewhere more remote where he could just have a ton of land enjoy doing whatever he wants with privacy and not bothering everyone instead of greedily hoovering up all family homes in a dense metro neighborhood. Not only is he decreasing housing in an area where it is desperately needed but he's bothering his neighbors with construction and noise with neverending renovations, increased traffic for all his staff, and his security team now harasses the neighbors when they're walking around on public sidewalks in front of their own houses.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by giardini »

somethingsome wrote: post #70

As a non US resident, I don't really get it. Can someone explain why is it such a crime to run a school? (illegal maybe, but I guess the purpose is still to teach to young people). Shouldn't we promote the creation of schools?

Doing so in a residential neighborhood is fraught with possible legal problems:

The city, the neighborhood association(s), the county and the state likely have questions about the school, whether it is legal, licensed, and inspected as specified by all jurisdictions. What about any traffic impediments it causes? Fire hazards, who certified the school, the teachers, the equipment, is food served, is it a commercial or nonprofit concern, on and on. You get my drift.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by burnt-resistor »

goatlover wrote: post #61
burnt-resistor wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Billionaire entitlement is just one of the problems afflicting the morbid wealthy. Most of them demonstrate a total lack of empathy and utter contempt for the rest of humanity.

We see that with Trump's second presidency. The WH ballroom, Gatsby party during shutdown, while withholding SNAP emergency funds, gifts from foreign governments, all the deals for corporations and billionaires, tariffs, pardons, etc.

This is how crazy shit like accelerationism, communism, or French Revolution take hold: wider factional extreme consolidations of power and swings between them rather than stable groups of sane, restrained people with a sense of shame and reasonableness set in roughly-balanced, countervailing opposition. (Status quo statism is not necessarily sustainable if it's been terrible for too many for too long either.)

The richest country in history of the world cannot afford healthcare or food banks, and has millions of homeless people living rough are absurd embarrassments, but can afford to bail out the austerity economic terrorist in Argentina, give bombs and missiles to a genocidal regime to flatten an indigenous population of millions into the Stone Age and man-made famine, bomb random boats claiming they're "narco-traffickers" without evidence, and maintain higher military expenditures than the next nine (9) countries combined.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by bradlys »

I’m late to this but just know the complaints about having a school in your neighborhood don’t fall on just Zuckerberg.

Neighborhoods will literally do their hardest to shut down newly formed schools on old school campuses. Yes, if a place had a school on it before but went out of business or was formerly a government one or whatever - it doesn’t matter - if it comes back then the neighbors will protest and try to shut it down.

This is how the Bay Area operates. People on HN (who are not from Silicon Valley and not involved in children’s upbringing) do not understand the level of NIMBYism that exists here. There is a reason why these homes are all so fucking expensive. Every neighborhood absolutely refuses to build due to NIMBYism.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by exe34 »

potato3732842 wrote: post #90
exe34 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When billionaires break the law, we all suffer. I'll let you try to figure out why. you seem like a smart chap.

Your complaint amounts to "the law is not popular enough to be easily enforced against someone who has the means to defend themselves out of principal" Repeal the law. Then nobody is breaking it.

That's an odd conclusion to come to from the premise. It's actually an argument against billionaires.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by exe34 »

potato3732842 wrote: post #89
exe34 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody made a school illegal. Schools have to meet certain standards, whether educational or planning.

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if you love freedom so much, you should move to Somalia! no government to tax and regulate your life!

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by CalRobert »

bdcravens wrote: post #39
CalRobert wrote: post #29

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Sounds like a lot of the problem was caused by cars, which shouldn't be necessary for a school, ideally.

The kids have to school and back home somehow, and ditto for the employees. Drive by a local school when it ends the day and marvel at the parents in line to collect their children.

Yeah I’m just grousing about how rotten design is when kids need to be driven to school, and if people don’t like traffic the solution is to forbid cars, not schools.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Had Illegal School at His Palo Alto Compound. Neighbors Revolted

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Post by potato3732842 »

exe34 wrote: post #98
potato3732842 wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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if you love freedom so much, you should move to Somalia! no government to tax and regulate your life!

Ah, yes, the false dichotomy.

Stop peddling government that sucks so much and people wouldn't hate it.

It's not even about the taxes and the regulation. It's about the de-facto inequality under the law masquerading as "regulation" that I can't stand.

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