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I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by 99954bb63ccc »

monero-xmr wrote: post #51
raesene9 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be surprised by a drop in security postings. Quite a few companies view security as an "overhead" so the siren call of reducing that overhead by introducing AI is a thing. Also for a lot of jobs in security it's pretty hard to measure how well it's being done, so if the AI based solutions are worse, that might not show up for a while

Security products and practitioners are the classic snake oil salesmen. They are actually sales and marketing roles for help closing deals by emphasizing some security aspect. True security comes from general IT practices followed by engineers themselves.

> True security comes from general IT practices followed by engineers themselves

Sounds exactly like something the average security practitioner would say...

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Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by tayo42 »

jeffbee wrote: post #84
tayo42 wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The job market is terrible, pay is stagnate and remote work is being taken away and the biggest companies despite profits are laying off large amounts of people. I don't think that's fud

I don't see how you can hold that this job market is "terrible" in a frame of reference of the last 50 years, unless you were born fully-grown in a vat exactly 4 years ago.

Have you looked for a software job in the last few years?

It's worse then 10 years ago. Idk why everyone who comments on the job market only looks back to the covid year

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by guywithahat »

9rx wrote: post #43
lm28469 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> When using AI, you become a software engineer. When using a pen you become a poet ? lol Most people who code aren't software engineers, you certainly can't extend the definition to every AI users

> When using a pen you become a poet ? No. By definition, a poet writes poems. Not all pen use leads to poems. By definition, engineers build systems. What else can you do with code (and LLMs; same thing) other than build systems?

In mechanical engineering you can be an engineer or a mechanic, or other things (like a hobbies or different degrees of casual work), and they're no interchangeable.

I think being an engineer implies it's a profession you've trained in and you're implementing the science behind it in a practical manor in some capacity (like a computer scientist studies computers, a computer engineer implements and builds the systems based upon this science).

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by brendoelfrendo »

monero-xmr wrote: post #51
raesene9 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be surprised by a drop in security postings. Quite a few companies view security as an "overhead" so the siren call of reducing that overhead by introducing AI is a thing. Also for a lot of jobs in security it's pretty hard to measure how well it's being done, so if the AI based solutions are worse, that might not show up for a while

Security products and practitioners are the classic snake oil salesmen. They are actually sales and marketing roles for help closing deals by emphasizing some security aspect. True security comes from general IT practices followed by engineers themselves.

> True security comes from general IT practices followed by engineers themselves.

I have yet to meet an org whose engineers care about security, or who would not compromise security if secure practices got in the way of shipping a product or feature.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by stuffn »

empath75 wrote: post #7
kode95 wrote: post #2

I found this interesting: "Still, despite all the hype about how AI coding tools will replace software engineers, software engineering is still one of the most secure jobs you can have today, relative to most other white-collar jobs."

Did the invention of compilers eliminate the need for programmers or make them more productive and valuable? LLM coding is really not in the most abstract sense any different from compiling a higher level language to a lower level language.

Certainly the jobs that were around for bespoke compilers were eliminated with the unification of compilers (GCC, Microsoft Visual C++). How many of those people transitioned to other roles I don't know. But the number of compiler jobs has been declining forever at this point.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by alecco »

AI is taking jobs but for a different reason. Big Tech is in an AI race so they will shrink their staff or move jobs to India as much as possible to free capital for GPU datacenters. To hell with the consequences.

Meta, Alphabet, and Oracle are even issuing almost $60 billions in bonds. Unheard of.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by jeffbee »

tayo42 wrote: post #92
jeffbee wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how you can hold that this job market is "terrible" in a frame of reference of the last 50 years, unless you were born fully-grown in a vat exactly 4 years ago.

Have you looked for a software job in the last few years? It's worse then 10 years ago. Idk why everyone who comments on the job market only looks back to the covid year

No, and no individual person can rely on their personal experience to gauge the job market, including you. However if you wish to assert that it is currently more difficult to get a job as a software developer than it was in late 2015, aggregate data suggest this is false. Also, looking back a mere 10 years does not dispel the general impression that you lack context.

If you look at employment in, for example, NAICS 518 "Computing infrastructure providers, data processing, web hosting, and related services" which is one of the larger BLS categories for our industry, the numbers are at all-time highs, having doubled since 2011. An example of a bad job market for software developers was 2001-2011, when this sector shrank by a third.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by chairmansteve »

alecco wrote: post #96

AI is taking jobs but for a different reason. Big Tech is in an AI race so they will shrink their staff or move jobs to India as much as possible to free capital for GPU datacenters. To hell with the consequences. Meta, Alphabet, and Oracle are even issuing almost $60 billions in bonds. Unheard of.

Cannibalising their businesses....

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by adverbly »

> While I acknowledge not all job postings result in a hire, and some are ‘ghost jobs’, since I was comparing the relative growth in job titles, this didn’t seem like a big issue to me.

Uhhh... That's a very big issue. In addition, there is also a glaringly obvious analysis error here related to layoffs/attrition.

No offence but is this analysis vibe analyzed or something?

All this is actually measuring is how the number of job listings in a specific industry have changed globally. That's not the same thing as "what jobs AI is replacing" at all!

Like nurses decreasing 11%. There is 0% chance that AI is disrupting nurses. If anything, nursing is probably in more demand due to continual aging. It might just be that fewer people are quitting because of covid being over. The total number of nurses might be going up still!

Are we just upvoting anything with AI in the title now? HN used to be pretty respectful of scientific methods. The methodology section here just reads like personal resume filler for showing that you can use AI. I mean I get it and I admire the hustle, but the quality here is pretty lacking overall. https://bloomberry.com/blog/i-analyzed-180m-jobs-to-see-what...

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by GenerWork »

shagie wrote: post #35

Comparing US job openings from 2024 to 2025 seems to be selective. Is the job in sudden decline? Or a reset to a norm? Or is the decline something that has been happening over even a longer timeframe? Taking two years and drawing conclusions from those two years seems to miss larger pictures - especially when the mess of Covid and the pandemic years and that job market is mixed in with this. Yea, that's half a decade…

I agree with this. I'm a product designer, and apparently there's "only" been a decrease in job postings of 2.6%. That doesn't seem bad, however in late 2022 through all of 2023 people were getting canned left and right and the market was incredibly tough. Can't really have big decreases when you're near the bottom of the hole.
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