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SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Sailfish OS looks nice. but i am not sure if their strategie for applications is the way to go. Applications need to be specifically built for Sailfish OS with their IDE which uses Qt. That means you can't run just any linux software on it.

You can run any CLI software in the terminal emulator ;) You might need to build it, if it is so rare that no binary is readibly available.

Yeah, with GUIs thats a different story...

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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This is a mobile OS, right? I go to the homepage. Zero screenshots. I go to the User Experience page. Zero screenshots. I even go to Design Principles under the UX page. Zero screenshots. Talking about mobile phone design is like dancing about architecture. Show the thing or bust.

I type these words on my year old Sailfish device. I had 2 other ones for roughly 10 years altogether. The UI is astonishingly polished. It has not changed a lot for 10 years, but still nice to use. There is e.g. the tutorial video that comes installed on every device. Sorry, probably won't have time to share it later, I have a funeral to organize when I get out of bed. Maybe some other user can if it's not on Youtub…

My point is not that it’s bad UX or not, my point is the website is bad at selling me their product and could never convince me that it’s good.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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SailfishOS and the Jolla One were good (awesome usability) But the integration of Android was a horribly failure. It is like WINE, half working applications preventing native ports of quality. I left the boat. After that Jolla failed with the tablet. Then they didn’t deliver a successor device for Jolla One and provided SailfishOS only as aftermarket OS. You remember the Android problem from above? The hardware of ot…

Does anyone know if Jolla ever published the full source-code? The promised back in 2013.

Don't know 100% sure. But would dare to claim most UI apps are still closed source. All the basic libraries and probably most daemons are open source. In the HW adaptation it looks bad again, but there Sailfish is not to blame.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The android support improved a lot such that all the apps I used worked there.

Thanks. Jolla stopped porting newer Android APIs to the Jolla One early. Which rendered the Android support quickly useless.

The Android environment is completely different now. The old one stopped at 4.4 for many years. The new one is version 13. Problem was the kernel. Not something Sailfish as a small company could really control.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I type these words on my year old Sailfish device. I had 2 other ones for roughly 10 years altogether. The UI is astonishingly polished. It has not changed a lot for 10 years, but still nice to use. There is e.g. the tutorial video that comes installed on every device. Sorry, probably won't have time to share it later, I have a funeral to organize when I get out of bed. Maybe some other user can if it's not on Youtub…

My point is not that it’s bad UX or not, my point is the website is bad at selling me their product and could never convince me that it’s good.

I understood your point. As a long time user I am not familiar with their Web site. I suffer from their lack of technical resources. But I have no doubt they also have a lack of marketing resources. They are just too few people.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have been using Xperia 10 III as my main phone for years with Sailfish OS just fine. Looks like they also support up to Xperia 10 V & there is the Jolla C2 community device: https://docs.sailfishos.org/Support/Supported_Devices/

I remember not too long ago seeing a similar table from Jolla that showed these devices, but also included a breakdown of specific hardware features that were not fully working. Was there a major update in the last few months that cleared that up?

Not following things in great detail, but I would dare to answer: Zero updates to the situation you describe for roughly a year.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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This is a mobile OS, right? I go to the homepage. Zero screenshots. I go to the User Experience page. Zero screenshots. I even go to Design Principles under the UX page. Zero screenshots. Talking about mobile phone design is like dancing about architecture. Show the thing or bust.

Homepage has dozens of screenshots as well as descriptions. Submitted link isn't the homepage but '/info'. That said screencasts will've been even better because for long-time a distinction/advantage Sailfish had over Android/iOS was being heavily gesture-based.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

#98

This is a mobile OS, right? I go to the homepage. Zero screenshots. I go to the User Experience page. Zero screenshots. I even go to Design Principles under the UX page. Zero screenshots. Talking about mobile phone design is like dancing about architecture. Show the thing or bust.

Are there cheap devices running it (< €250?)

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

#99

This is a mobile OS, right? I go to the homepage. Zero screenshots. I go to the User Experience page. Zero screenshots. I even go to Design Principles under the UX page. Zero screenshots. Talking about mobile phone design is like dancing about architecture. Show the thing or bust.

I just watched two videos and saw multiple screenshots. lol.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

#100

Funnily enough the only viable deployment was AuroraOS in Russia , which they cut ties with after the war started (pretty shortsighted IMO) as the equivalent US ops merely paused their operations with options for future return. I think Google only stopped monetization of play store from Visa/MC CC ban , while maintianing their operations there. Meanwhile the sailfish guys set their largest successful deployment on fi…

It is a small company in a niche, they were just by trying to survive.

I've not used their OS but have been thinking for a while, and spent some time in their forums. I remember some dev saying this along those lines.

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